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Eight GEOS Australia Schools in 'Voluntary Administration'

Add this to the list of GEOS's woes: voluntary administration.

Eight English language schools operated in Australia by the GEOS group have gone into voluntary administration, leaving about 2300 foreign students unsure of their future.

Justin Walsh and Adam Nikitins of Ernst & Young have been appointed administrators to nine companies operating the schools in Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane, Gold Coast and Cairns.

They have about 390 employees and international students from a number of different countries.

"The financial position of the companies is such that the directors appointed voluntary administrators," Mr Walsh and Mr Nikitins said in a statement on Friday.

"School operations have been temporarily suspended while the financial situation of the companies and ability to fund future operations of the schools is assessed over the next few days."

Voluntary administration is like Chapter 11 in the United States or corporate rehabilitation in Japan. In other words, they are effectively bankrupt. The eight schools affected are: GEOS Melbourne Pty Ltd, GEOS Adelaide Pty Ltd, GEOS Sydney Pty Ltd, GEOS Cairns Pty Ltd, GEOS Gold Coast Pty Ltd, GEOS Perth Pty Ltd, GEOS Brisbane Pty Ltd, GEOS Management Services Pty Ltd, and GEOS National English Academy Pty Ltd.

The administrators said a better understanding of the financial situation and a decision on future operations should be known by the close of business on February 1.

"Employees, students and creditors will be advised as soon as possible," they said.

It will be interesting to see what the administrators learn about GEOS's financial situation. It has been suggested in previous posts on GEOS that the company has had to rely on transfers from overseas schools in order to pay its staff in Japan. Is business so bad that they've drained their schools in Australia dry? So much for rumours about the company's health; now we know it's not good.

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Will the directors be in trouble for diverting the money to Japan even though the crazy CEO required them to?

-translated- Dear Sir/Madam Sincerely, I apologize for any concerns about the assessment the financial situation of the schools in Australia. Now we are still investigating the details however it was the unexpected for us and these schools in Australia are just local Pty Ltd and they are financially independent of our GEOS Japan also we are not familiar with their management and financial situation at all. We surely allowed them to use GEOS brand and this might be the cause of the concern for the existing student and potential students in Japan however our GEOS Corp in Japan and EIKAIWA in Japan will be unaffected by this happened so please do not too worried about GEOS in Japan and please take lessons as usual. Now we are trying to keep in contact with the students who have lessons and in homestay in Australia with our arrangement. Once we apologize for any inconvenience and the concerns again. GEOS Corporation Tsuneo Kusunoki

After working with GEOS Australia, I just want to say what an amazing team of staff and teachers we had. It is absolutely no fault of the Australian schools that this situation has come to pass. The schools were audited regularly and found to be financially stable so it should amaze people that all of a sudden they aren't. It is without a doubt that the Japanese office managed to run the successful schools in Australia into the ground purely through greed. The targets for the schools were unrealistic and criminal. How could bouyant schools struggle to pay wages? Because the CEO thought he had his own private bank in the Australian schools. The Australian schools were not a franchise.....this should worry GEOS Japan staff. So what of GEOS' esteemed leader- well it is my opinion that Mr. K should be the one on trial. A little man who is obessessed with thinking he is a demi-god. Shaving or falling asleep during meetings with senior managers, harrassing and abusing staff members, name calling and appointing bullying Japanese senior staff, drove me to leave and be put on the 'never to be communicated with again' list. At least I shall never again have to listen to lectures on how I should wear my hair, how I must wear makeup and the ever popular 'Goal Come First' speech.

I am very sorry for the Australian staff and students... At least you no longer have to put up with his crap.

EA have modified their website and are now announcing that all visa types will be covered under the TAS. Link is here - http://www.englishaustralia.com.au/index.cgi?E=hsvalidator&template=stud...

Tracking the doings of GEOS early leavers in their new ventures.

Q English in Perth

Gary Maserow has left Geos in Perth to set up his own school, called Q English, in the same city.

The school is currently going through the accreditation process and will open later in the year. Maserow said, “It is out intention to have a boutique college ‘BIG’ on services and personal attention. We want every student to leave us having satisfied our slogan ‘the experience’

Thank you: hothousemedia

Kusunoki You are such a liar, Thanks for destroying peoples lives.

You could have warned the other staff but no you chose to save your ass only. well done!!!!!!

what a crock of sh-t! "Not familiar with their management or financial situation?" You have got to be kidding. I have one word.....Karma!

LOL....good that there is record in email and video form of his visits and managment meetings here in Australia. Tool!

We need to create a support group for Ex-GEOS Overseas Management. I am sure we are all VERY interested in this story. Mr. Kusunoki thought he was invincible....and still does based on the letter he sent to the students at the Japan schools. The only thing he was really good at....hiring great staff.

Eight English schools won't reopen: E&Y DAVID MCINTYRE
February 1, 2010 - 6:49PM
AAP

The voluntary administrators of eight English language schools say that the schools will not reopen because of the financial situation.

Justin Walsh and Adam Nikitins of Ernst & Young say they are working with the federal department of education and state government departments to find arrangements for the 2300 international students.

The administrators were continuing to investigate the nine companies operating under the GEOS name and hope to provide a further update on Wednesday, Ernst & Young said in a statement on Monday.

"We've very quickly worked through the options to keep the schools open, but were unable to do so," Mr Walsh said.

"That included speaking with the Japanese parent."

GEOS, which had schools in Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney, Cairns, Gold Coast, Perth and Brisbane, is the local subsidiary of the Tokyo-based language teaching company of the same name.

"Funds weren't forthcoming" from GEOS, Mr Walsh said.

GEOS's media relations manager was not immediately available for comment.

The students, from 20 different countries including Brazil, Colombia, South Korea and Turkey, and 390 employees were being informed at meetings on Monday afternoon.

"We're working with federal government to minimise the impact on the students," Mr Walsh said.

So! what's the news from the outcome. It's over two hours since the Australian meetings commenced. What did you hear?

Mr. Kusunoki is a total asshole. When I worked for GEOS up until late fall in Japan as a teacher at one of its countryside schools....we were routinely sent recorded videos over GEOS secure conferencing program....there were 2 versions..the japanese version and the english version. We were required to watch these videos within 48 hours of release. These videos were nothing but a loose tirade against teachers calling GEOS teachers lazy, stupid, unmotivated, and threatening to fire any teacher for not cooperating with the school manager or for not selling enough outdated study books or failure to meet outrageous sales targets. He made these vidoes clearly to take out his frustrations and anger on the teachers and j-staff for his failed 1987 business model. These videos were anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes in length and he constantly repeated himself over and over. It was mind numbing and ridiculous to watch these videos....he would be sitting at his desk and waving his arms in the air and screaming into the camera. The guy was a madman.

These videos tore down teacher morale big time. These videos had at times clear racist overtones/undertones and you couldnt help but get a feeling he looked down on foreigners in general with complete disgust.

Mr. Kusunoki, you can go straight to HELL!! (using middle finger)

What surprises me most is his awful english! Geezus, for someone who ran a eikaiwa empire for more than 35 years...his english really sucks!!
Did GEOS Australia teachers see these vidoes??!?!?!?

I was present at one of the administrators meetings this afternoon for australian geos staff. Im am only privy to what staff were told. I cannot confirm what students have been told at a later meeting.

All australian geos are closed. All staff are unemployed. There will be a creditors meeting in approximately 20 days whereby the company will likely go into liquidation. Staff are unable to claim unpaid wages, severance pay, unused sick leave, long service leave etc from GEERS until after the company goes into liquidation. Staff are considered unsecured creditors and as employees are to be returned funds first.
Staff wanting to arrange a separation certificate (for tax/centrelink purposes) should contact the number provided on the notice given to staff on friday/monday by Ernst and Young.

The Department of Education, Employment and Workplace Relations is working out arrangements for GEOS students with English Australia. When the EA TAS (Tuition Assurance Scheme) is formally activated they will ensure the students are taken care of.

The administrators have held meetings with students this evening. I believe there will be further meetings held by DEEWR with students this week where they (students visa holders) will be informed of their rights under ESOS, and DIAC would address issues relating to visas. EA would explain the placement process highlighting the fact that they would be relocating all students in new colleges regardless of their visa type. Students then fill out a relocation request form to return at the meeting. EA would then place students with other colleges for the remaining weeks of their course that has not been delivered at the time of the GEOS closure.

Details for when and where student meetings will be held as well as relocation request forms are available on the students section of the EA website.
1. www.englishaustralia.com.au
2. click on: Students
3. click on: EA Member College Closures – student relocations

In regards to students in homestay... I dont think homestay is insured the way that tuition is. Im not sure what the situation is for students regarding accomodation. Or for homestay providers who may not have been paid.

Ok im off to get drunk now.

P.S I remember the word "criminal" was mentioned by one of the administrators representatives during the staff meeting. However I was so mentally exhausted by the entire situation that I wasnt always paying attention and I dont know who he was referring to?

Indeed, thoughts are with all GEOS Australia students and staff. Having read the latest from the Ernst and Young administrator above, the prospect of schools re-opening looks all but gone.
Reading the CEO's comments, essentially washing his hands of GEOS Australia, must be sickening. To bleed the region dry over a period of years to support an outdated business model in Japan and then to claim you knew nothing of the financial problem is business practice at its worst.
As was mentioned, he drove out his best people from ID because his daughter didn't like them. This department and the GEOS International Offices had some great staff and agents - just a nutcase making awful decisions.
Agents will now find it impossible to promote the GEOS brand with any confidence and Europe, Asia and North America will surely see the numbers freefall.
GEOS Japan customer services have been fielding hundreds of calls from students worried that their school in Japan will be closing. Of course they are told not to worry - its business as usual. Come in, take your lesson, renew for another 12 month overpriced product, buy crappy outdated self study material with zero practicality, oh and while you're at it, why don't you sign up to one of our wonderful language immersion programs overseas to improve your English?! er.... just not the Australian ones.....
I do hope the company can ride this out as I know some great people working there but the loss of such a major overseas operation, the loss of the funds that brought to Japan and the resulting loss of student confidence in the brand doesn't point to a rosy future.

Good luck to Ex M Natalie J who has started up on the Gold Coast! Good luck to Ann P (Cape Town) who too has started up!

Good luck to all the Ex 9 who were sick and tired of the verbal abuse and V-chats. And there were many wonderful Managers before who endured the abuse.

Good luck to all the wonderful staff too.....if those starting out could employ you all we surely would! Teachers and admin staff gave 'life to the colleges' You were the success of Australia!!!

We were really sick and tired of being told we were 'mini monsters', we should be selling 'pickles in the basement', our 'control towers' were damaged, 'work for to the company goal', 'parent who give money to son, son become razy man, if parent stop giving money, son become beggar' Well mate, now that Australia has stopped sending you money?????????

We were sick and tired of being told about signboards and local recruitment, and ocean fishing and river fishing and everyone's business is noones business, and 'you I can appreciate, and you be careful' and the list goes on and on........so vast is the list that we played k-go during meetings (but this is a different chapter)

Even though we are out and all going on to our own ventures we all left because it was intolerable working with Head Office.

(google transleted)
Dear Mr. Tsuneo Kusunoki. Saying that does not know the financial situation of companies using the name of the Geos i think is that there is a large administrative problem in your company. Franchising or licensing of trade make it clear, normally, they must follow rigid financial standards for presentation to customers, in addition of course to provide the product correctly.
Urges for considering that the students are alone and without local support, most of the time, since it was proclaimed to be supplied by the school. Please provide the physical and logistical support that was sold in the leaflets that advertise courses abroad.

To the above poster: where are you "translating" these posts from?

Person of interest? Reliable source? Random non-native 3rd world loser country bullshit?

From the Age:

Industry insiders said the global financial crisis had hit GEOS hard and its Japanese operations were in trouble.

Even before the appointment of administrators, the Victorian education regulator had been in talks with GEOS to set up a trust fund and other arrangements that would have secured funds in the Melbourne business.

The Victorian Registration and Qualifications Authority had become concerned about GEOS following a financial audit.

The authority's director, Lynn Glover, said in a statement: ''The VRQA had discovered that the directors [two Australian and one Japanese] have been diverting revenue from GEOS Melbourne to support the operations of other holdings in both Australia and overseas.''

And from the Australian:

Administrators discovered the Japanese owners had left it with no money to keep going.

So now the question is:

Where did that money go? Why was it diverted?

Personally, I think they diverted money to meet their wage bill in Japan. They know that as soon as wages start being paid late, they are in BIG TROUBLE. So they're prepared to help themselves to the money the Aus schools were making, and bankrupt them to keep the Japan operation afloat. They were probably hoping to hold out until April, when student enrolments usually go up.

Corporations Act, Sections 184 read with 187.

The money went on:
- Useless global meetings where staff were expected to fly across the globe for last minute, literally 10 minute-meetings with Kusunoki
- Kusunoki's 24/7 secretary, available to massage his back at dinners with staff, hold his lead crystal ashtray, carry his luggage and put his shoes on
- Kusunoki staying at lavish resorts around the world and paying for prostitutes while on his trips
- Kusunoki's private jet with 24/7 staff and yacht
- Trips for all GEOS staff to professional development meetings. Monthly and for all staff from around the globe and not knowing for sure but probably stashing funds away in a tax-free account somwhere far away. Check this report out http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20010302a5.html
This has been going on for years and it finally caught up!

I taught at GEOS' college in Perth, St Mark's, until 1.30pm last Friday. Later that afternoon I got a call from 'the administrators' saying the college was closed. A meeting yesterday at 5pm confirmed the closure, when staff and students were told the news, face to face, by the administrators. I heard that overly high commissions, hevy discounting of courses, and the 'opulent lifestyle of the owners (of GEOS)' were tha main factors for its demise. Also, the repatriation to Japan of monies made by Australian colleges had sucked them dry.
Six months ago St Mark's was acrtually looking for extra classrooms, so it must have been profitable and successful. GEOS headquarters in Japan have killed the goose that was laying them golden eggs.
I will lose only about AUD$600 in salary (for three days of teaching last week) but other staff - and students have lost hundreds, if not thousands of dollars.
Is there not a case for (a) more transparency (e.g. open accounting, on a regular basis) and (b) each college to be considered a cost centre in its own right?
BUT, I agree with earlier sentiments - GEOS is d-e-a-d, and the wise staff and students should bail out NOW, before the GEOS aircraft crashes and burns.
(written early on Tuesday 2nd Feb, Perth, Western Australia).

Forgive my spelling errors - it's 5am!

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a report sooner or later that Kusunoki stuck the money from GEOS Australia into his offshore bank accounts, and has disappeared, leaving the smouldering wreckage of GEOS behind for the crows to peck at.

This is the usual behaviour of your typically selfish eikaiwa scumbag operators.

I hope he chokes on Swiss roll.

Homestay placements are an intregral part of the Geos 'employment' sector that seems to have been 'forgotten' on the blog discussions so far that I have read here and elsewhere. Remember, most students that attend Geos Language schools are hosted/accommodated with family homestays. My wife and I have hosted students from St. Marks in Perth for over 15 years and we too will loose out in the inevidible 'declared bankruptcy' of Geos Oceania. Delayed accommodation chqs, received on the day of the 'foreclosure' announcement for a current juvenile tour groups, are worthless however hostfamilies are expected to(and the majority will) continue to host there students free of charge. Homestay families, unlike 'unsecure creditors'(teachers/students for example) are not covered in Government legislation (GEERS etc)even if bankruptcy is declared or not. So there goes nearly $1000 owing( in our case) immediately and future bookings until we find alternative 'employment'(from other schools).

@10.42 Homestay
Do you pay tax on the money you receive from the students through the schools, I doubt it, most homestay families do it as a way to pay the Mortgage.

Yes some do it for the experience and are involved in the students learning but alot are just in it for the easy tax free income that it provides.

Why should you be a creditor if you havent paid Tax Just another shark in the Eglish Language world with their hand out wanting to be fed.

Homestay Do you pay
I'll assume you are a disgruntled ex-homestay student or a landlord. Yes, we pay our taxes and, whilst I'll agree that a few Homestays are 'unsuitable' for the system, we do it for the experience and are involved with the students learning(who are interested) and, finally, yes we should be considered a creditor! A couple of questions for you...would you expect to be provided with FREE accommodation and what are you paying now for your current accommodation now? How much would you thing the homestay service/experience should be worth? Something surely!

I am a NZ school owner and operator. One doubtful claim from many Australian managers is that GEOS was highly profitable. Probably some profit with the very high student numbers, but....We as competitors know that GEOS was selling at around 30% below market rates, and was paying 40% commission compared to something like 25% normally. It sort of works if you have very large numbers. However the 'profit' which managers talk about was very likely to just have been pre-paid fees. Which are now missing. With 2300 students you would expect something like $7 to $10 million at a rough guess in the bank. It wasn't there. There may have been some profit, but cash is NOT profit. (Managers typically do not full appreciate this subtlety of accounting)
The key factor in whether or not Japanese consumers lose confidence is whether or not the Japanese media pick up on the following points:
1. THe money syphoned off Australia included ($5 million to $10 million at least) of student fees in advance. There is nothing left. This was (mostly) not profits, but actually stealing money off students, including Japanese nationals.
2. The fraudulent claim from the CEO (Has this been verified yet?) that AUstralia is just some kind of franchise operation is untrue and affects the trust that Japanese consumers place in GEOS
3. Major Korean agent chains have already directed staff to stop sending students to GEOS. Other nationalities will follow
4. All international GEOS schools will face a 'run' on funds. It is the usual game of the quickest get paid. Countries with 7 day refund rules and the like will create a major problem for GEOS international.
5. If they delay payment, expect angry scenes all round the world as students queue up for money.
6 The agents and students who have demanded ever cheaper courses carry much of the blame for this mess.

In short, Japanese consumers should be afraid - very afraid.

If you are hostile force wishing to get even with GEOS - you need to get these points to Japanese media reporters as fast as possible

I personally have no time for GEOS - they have dragged down the industry with price and a 'McDonald's' approach for years now. Their business model is unsustainable and their demise is good news. Who knows, perhaps if the industry recovers we can actually pay more to our staff! They deserve it. GEOS's exit internationally is good news for everyone except those caught up in it

Why should you be a creditor if you havent paid Tax Just another shark in the Eglish Language world with their hand out wanting to be fed.

That is an incredibly unfair remark. The possibility that some people, or indeed many. might not pay their taxes has no bearing on whether or not they deserve to be treated as creditors in a business transaction. If too many homestay families are not paying taxes, or are not providing value for money that is because authorities choose to turn a blind eye to the matter. However, you cannot assume that all people who offer homestays necessarily fall into an underclass with their hands out begging for money, and that therefore they don't deserve fair treatment.

I think it unlikely that @10.42 Homestay has ever offered free accommodation and meals to strangers from another culture. Is he/she suggesting that this is what homestay providers should do, year in and year out?
I have never heard of anyone becoming wealthy providing homestay accommodation to overseas students. If they receive lenient treatment from tax authorities it is probably because the resources required for providers and authorities to establish and maintain records of expenses involved are out of all proportion to the small amount of tax which could be collected.
Homestay hosts provide accommodation (and often much more) which is well below the price available through commercial providers. They are frequently on tight budgets and deserve sympathy just as much as students and teachers who have have been let down by GEOS International.
They don't deserve to be insulted by some ignorant pipsqueak.

I don't know what it's like these days, but I did a couple of homestays about 8 years ago, when I was at home. At that time the price that I received for doing a homestay was about the same that I could have charged for just taking a boarder in. If I had done so, then all I would have been expected to do is to provide a room and food. That's it. Yet was I was expected to do, and gladly did for my homestays was a lot more than that. How can someone who is only being paid the going rate for locals be describes as a shark?

I worked for GEOS in Japan for a bit and I'm now working for community colleges. I wanted to send out some big condolences for everyone effected by the closure of the GEOS schools. Pretty much every since Nova went under, message boards have been dominated by "GEOS is going under, GEOS is going under" Well I certainly can't dispute that- but I would like to say to teachers who love their jobs, who love teaching English- that there is much, much better options for you.

Sure I can join the cry of -get out of GEOS- but I want to add to that get into community education, or a TAFE, or hell even a Uni. The thing about GEOS and pretty much the Eikawa model in general is that it was always about the money and that was never really sustainable.

Good luck

I am looking for a pdf copy of the official letter recently sent out to everyone in Japan from the GEOS Corporation CEO - Tsuneo Kusunoki. If anyone has received a copy of this letter can you please email it to me? -

The letter goes something like this....

Dear Sir/Madam

Sincerely, I apologize for any concerns about the assessment the financial situation of the schools in Australia.

Now we are still investigating the details however it was the unexpected for us and these schools in Australia are just local Pty Ltd and they are financially independent of our GEOS Japan also we are not familiar with their management and financial situation at all.

We surely allowed them to use GEOS brand and this might be the cause of the concern for the existing
student and potential students in Japan however our GEOS Corp in Japan and EIKAIWA in Japan will be
unaffected by this happened so please do not too worried about GEOS in Japan and please take lessons
as usual.

Now we are trying to keep in contact with the students who have lessons and in homestay in Australia
with our arrangement.

Once we apologize for any inconvenience and the concerns again.

GEOS Corporation

Tsuneo Kusunoki

I just blogged it. See GEOS's Non Apology for a link to the Japanese version.

Shawn

as an ex principal of an australian school that went down on Friday, let me tell that your figures are very conservative, the monet sent to Japan by our stupid directors is more like 50 million on the last two years

I doubt it, your English is shocking!!!!

Your comment of having at least 7 to ten million dollars is only true of the trust account money, which is still conservative, let me tell you, it's more the fact that most of the schools in Australia were owned outright, but Japan was so strapped for cash because of their gross incompitent mismanagement and as you say Mcdonald style expansion that all assests were sold and stupidly all that money including profits and trust money was sent to Japan to pay out all the colleges closing down there and to prop up all those around the world that were not and had never amde money, so I look forward to the day when Japan and the directors of Oceania go to jail. Believe me the administrators in oz know and mr K's lies will not save him.

thanks, it's been a long day

They dont have principals, have you heard the term Dos? It isnt a computer language and do you know what it means, in the Know?

yes, Director of Studies, I lost a good one

Which branch? Manly?

i don't wish to say, but I can assure you I am

Your English is not like that of a person who would work in an English school, tired or not. Even with simple sentences you make a lot of mistakes. How did you get the job? Maybe thats why they went bust.

Yeah, you're probably right, I don't know what I'm talking about, however, looking back on your responses, I don't think you should be commenting on anyone level of English.

Do you know where Manly is in Australia? Please respond in the know, I want to know.

Please tell me what is wrong with my English, as i would like to improve it.

oops! now I am writing like you.

hahaha, your sarcasm is sadly disappointing, as I was hoping for an intelligent discussion with someone who was possibily overseas and was viewing things from an angle that I wasn't privy to, but alas that's not the case.

Let me assure you that having high competency in written and spoken English was never a requirement to be a GEOS manager. As I think about it, I realise that I'm not really sure of what any of the needed skills were. Ah, yes, of course, obedience.

Manly she is near Fairlight.

that is true, but believe me not in my chair. In my opinion the blame lies squarely at the feet of our directors, even though for the most part your comment is correct.

so, who are you then?

I agree with you there, however a lot of the staff I worked with in Sydney were smart and very talented for the job. I am disappointed that it is all gone, as those people put in a lot of work and the industry is just a troublesome joke now. People just dont want to be in it anymore, crappy wages living fortnight to fortnight, no holidays etc.

Those of us at Sydney know exactly what 00:36 is talking about. Naughty!!!!!

yes, that is also the same of where we are, but I think that that's just a lot of raw angry emotion talking, there are still a lot of good esl schools out there, but the unfortunate nature of our industry is that it lends itself to shonky deals and dodgy financial manipulation, especially when we're talking about the fact that one of our directors was also the director of gms.

Nothing like the steyn hotel after vollyball. or while if the students are up for it.

nsw

Bugger the Steyne, let's nick off to the Bowlers 'or the Forbes, much better class of drinking teacher found there.

Those of us at Sydney know exactly what 00:36 is talking about. Naughty!!!!

Yes very true, hehe.

I'm an ex-GEOS employee. While we have the Press's attention might we not highlight the exploitative and underpaid nature of our profession. English Language businesses (let's not fool ourselves that we worked for a socially responsible educational provider) rely heavily on casual workers. This allows them to add and remove teaching staff as student numbers fluctuate. Fair enough. But couple that with the low wages and you have staff coming and going like the wind. Not a stable business scenario. We are paid an hourly rate for classroom time only. When you factor in preparation time the true hourly rate is ludicrous. The highest level of pay achievable is less than that of a new school teacher graduate.
I have only ever worked at GEOS and in my years there found management operate in a secretive way. Not even school managers had much power. Clearly managers in place last year got the nod to move out and a lot did. Their replacements have been used as pawns in the inevitable bail out. As someone experienced in business I found the management style at my GEOS school to be extremely odd. Staff and students were the enemy. Is this the Japanese way? Or the Kusunoki way? The huge creative resource in the teaching staff was never deployed. I didn't even meet the manager until I had been there a year and then only by chance. In an absurd staff diagram the teaching staff were on the same level as the cleaners! I hope other schools are run better.

Beem in the industry long time. Worked for many language schools in a number of countries including GEOS.

Sorry to tell you Wed but:

1. Its an amoeba industry, no different to hospitality, it has to swell and contract depending on demand, that means its going to be a casualised industry

2. Ts are not seen by other workers as undepaid. $40ish an hour is seen as utopian. Sure, some teachers put extra time in but as you gain experience you can wing it, bend things and minimise any extra time you have to put in. Not many "normal" jobs where you can lift you hat, say bye and get on your bike at 3pm every afternoon!

3. Management styles. Mate, in my experience in the industry I haven't met one who wasn't mad!! In fact GEOS was one of the saner, more comfortable places.

Lah-de-dah, what a crazy world!!!

Thanks for your post. No need to apologise for telling me what I know already. I have worked in other industries and am well aware that casualised staff is the way of the future. But let me tell you I didn't earn $40 an hour, classes didn't finish at 3pm. and I did minimum prep time because yes, like most experienced teachers I worked it out. And yes, I was well aware that GEOS was one of the saner schools but only because of the integrity and experience of the teaching staff and Dos. Lastly, I'm quite used to this crazy world and feel not the slightest jolt from the demise of GEOS.

Hi Pen
Loved your last line!!! Gotta be true.

I am a Sydney correspondent for Japanese TV.
I would like to interview you about the GEOS issue for Japanese TV news.
Please reply to me if you would like to do that.
Best Regards
Japanese Journalist

I hope they send all those copies of Cutting Edge (read Cutting Wrists) to the Antarctic, so no one has to endure them anymore.

Sure, but why havent you listed your details?

Because he isnt really a reporter, if he is on this site looking for contacts.

Hi,
I am a journalist with the Sunday Mail in Adelaide.
I would love to hear from any of you who would like to contact me to talk about GEOS. What has happened with GEOS is terrible and any help you can give me to tell the real story of what happened would be fantastic.
Please feel free to email me at or phone on (08) 8206 2793.
Kind regards,
Sarah Mennie

From ABC above:

The (GEOS) colleges were members of industry group English Australia, which means English Australia now takes responsibility for finding places in other colleges for the GEOS students.

I presume then this means that English Australia shoulders the costs of tuition for the students who want to continue in other colleges - and hopefully that means that it's English Australia who'll go after GEOS for the original (students') money.

Nice :)

Nah, its a mutual/assurance thing. Other Colleges as EA members are expected to take up the slop. The model is one that never envisaged thousands of replacements at one time.

PS You will notice that EA don't even answer phone calls, it's unlikely that they would even know where to start to chase off-shore monies.

Australian Education Export, A Well Thought Out Regime, A Credit to Our Institutions, A Little Ripper.

In Australia GEOS we knew it was coming if we had any nonce. Now that its over, don't you honestly feel a little, little bit of relief that you can now move back to a "normal" life?

it's not English Australias job to hunt down the money, it's the administrators job to recop the money for the credtors, good luck to them and look forward to the day when mr K gets his just reward.

Oh, Thorn, where are you?

I understand this much about Thorn: I know how it feels to be telling everyone what is going to happen and nobody will believe you. Thorn, you warned us.

Honestly, nobody outside of Japan believes any bad news about Japan. It's all happy, happy, joy, joy about Japan out there and if you try to tell them otherwise then you are a racist, etc. Japan love it or leave it, etc. Why do people in the outside world have such set ideas about how wonderful it is here?

Suffering from Cassandra Syndrome today. Next will be the money trail, the hidden accounts, the scam of corporate education will out.

Extract from VRQAedia release 4/2/10

VRQA has identified 82 students who have prepaid home-stay arrangements. GEOS Melbourne had been packaging their English language courses and offering home stays and airport pickup services.

The Minister for Skills and Workforce Participation has instructed the VRQA to assist those overseas students in home stay arrangements that have paid accommodation fees directly to GEOS Melbourne.

Accommodation providers will be paid an amount of up to four weeks home-stay fees to support students during this difficult period and allow them to remain in existing accommodation. To access this support a student who has pre-paid home stay fees to GEOS will be required to assign to the VRQA any accommodation claim they may have against GEOS Melbourne. Payments will not be made directly to students. The VRQA will then be a creditor in any winding up of GEOS Melbourne.

This action is strictly limited to GEOS Melbourne. The VRQA is assessing the extent of any other education providers' exposure in the home stay market with a view to minimising any future risks to overseas students and home stay providers.

Just checked Sarah Mennie's status with the Adelaide Sunday Mail newsdesk. She is legit. Main role apparently is a Medical Reporter so she should be well qualified to report on this sick outfit!

Give her a call (see her earlier post) and vent. Its a great opportunity to get the story out onto the News Corp papers.

Hi , to all in JAPAN. The situation in Australia should bring home the message that GEOS is probably "DEAD " . Australian colleges DID provide huge revenue, but the corporate greed of the parent company in Japan will probably mean that all of their operations are now in jeopardy. Those who support GEOS in Japan are truly optimistic, but at the end of the day , we must look in the mirror, and say that reality has come. This company has been derelict in its responsibility to all employees and students, and the directors will eventually have to answer for their actions.
" DO NOT TRUST THS COMPANY "
To all of my friends in Japan, Thank You.

I don't know who this alleged "school owner" is as, in Australia, the majority of reputable institutions are generally not 'one professed owner establishments' ...but GEOS teachers in Australia should be aware that they have rights; will be protected under government regulations in the event of such closures; need to fill out the necessary government forms and applications; and should attend and be aware of any of the upcoming meetings that will help to assure they are properly remunerated.

As to Government awards, I would disagree that they are "absurd". They are designed to properly protect professional teachers and keep the industry accountable and regulated. Surely this is what we would all want for our industry.

I do agree that agents will no longer send students to GEOS - why would they? However, agents are not the people who will be able to determine existing students' futures...again, this is now a matter for the appropriate government bodies - which is a good thing in a very bad situation and very much preferable to disreputable or unrecognised institutions attempting to 'make a buck' out of a truly terrible situation for international students. Their situation is a terrible one, but I am certainly glad that recognised and regulated government bodies are the ones now responsible for the ongoing placement and tuition of these students.

This is a terrible situation for the students, and a terrible situation for dedicated teams of professional teaching and administrative staff.

To the "school owner", specifically, you are not who or what you profess to be and, even it were the case, I would suggest that a bit of compassion is perhaps a better approach...that's my 'tip' for today.

Good luck to all

Yes the school owner likes to discount to get more students and on top of this pays commisions and then complains that he has not got enough to pay the teachers.

I will say it again, Stop discounting to the point that you are not able to run an ESL business in Australia.
Charge the students the true cost and stop creating a false economy.

Different places do have different rules.
In NZ, all student fees are in a trust fund and paid back to the school fortnightly (I think) as they 'use' the pre-paid weeks. It guards against unscrupulous managers running off with money, and against bankruptcy leaving students out of pocket. I don’t think Oz has this (though maybe for homestay fees), but as some people have mentioned there is something in an Act and something in EA about other school having t take in there now school-less students. I don’t know who funds that, though.
Fair points made about visas, too – some will have very specific visas and might have issues with getting them changed.
And yes, GEOS Japan did take a lot of GEOS Oz’s profit, and not really send it back...I heard about that though my own colleagues and through people I knew working for GEOS Oz
Also, to the people debating about the language level of Principals etc. GEOS NZ had teachers and DoSs as usual, but also a Director or Principal who runs ‘the whole school branch’, not just the teaching side of things and there’s no requirement for that person to be an educator or have a certain English level – it’s a business role.

And I didn't spellcheck the title....so easy to see what you 'expect' to see when proofreading.

Good god!
Writing in a hurry, and damn spellchecker didn't do the 'this word looks out of place' blue underlining....
"...something in EA about other schools having to take in these now school-less students. I don’t know who funds that, though.
Fair points made about visas, too – some will have very specific visas and might have issues with getting them changed.
And yes, GEOS Japan did take a lot of GEOS Oz’s profit, and not really send it back...I heard about that through ...

Oh, this is just precious, (@23.10). We should stop discounting! And paying commissions! Sheer genius! Now, when you have a moment, pop down to the library and buy Economics for Compelte and Utter Dummies, and read up on supply and demand.

Jesus, it honestly makes me wonder which rock some of these morons crawl out from under. I can just imagine the head of Ford reading this...."Hey...the guy's got a point! Rather than selling ten cars for $30,000, we just need to sell ONE for $300,000! Imagine the profit!"

This is how the honchos in NZ do it. The college sets in place a:

Student Fee Protection Trust deed and related account, with an independent chartered accountant, for the protection of students’ fees in accordance with the statutory requirements under section 253(1) of the Education Act 1989 and the New Zealand Qualifications Authority Private Training Establishment registration requirements.

'Course this type of thing was all too hard for us Ozzies and we concentrated on quality assurance things like student brochure, and advertising ethics and the standard of toilets and all those type of important things,

And then the chickens come home to roost.

The thing that's driven more students away than anything else is the exchange rate. Australian schools drive down costs because they can't compete as well with the UK, America, NZ and Canada. Adding to that you've got Koreans who no longer have the same stigma against learning from a non-native speaker as they used to travelling to the Phillippines to study at half the price. Seriously, what are school owners SUPPOSED to do here? Stick their fingers in their ears, keep charging the same price and hope that the students come back? Charge more, spend more on better staff and hope they can compete on quality?

Australia can still compete in some areas, particularly in English courses that linked to migration or university courses. This is what people who come to Australia still want; experienced, well qualified teachers in IELTS and EAP courses. Honestly though, the days of hordes of general English students flooding into the country waving wads of cash with no concern for course quality are long gone.

It is clear that you simply have no idea what you're talking about, how do you know about the financials of GEOS Australia?

School Owner only interprets posts to his way of thinking. Will Ford produce a car for $30000 and then sell it for $27000 minus commission of lets say $1500 leaving ford with how much $25500. NO OF COURSE THEY WONT!!!! But this is what school owner is doing.
I think the school owner needs to learn the economics of running and English School in Australia and paying Staff what they are worth.

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