Open Thread: GEOS Honolulu No Longer Accepting Enrollments

Poor Uri Carnat, he is a the brunt of all the jokes (and for good reason) and even when people try to help him out it ends up backfiring on him. Sad, dad GEOS world, eh?

Re OH and GEOSNA coupling. Now becoming known that following intense negotiations, G rejected OH offer. Not much else known about the Miami/Montreal meetings.

I can imagine another reason the OH deal fell apart is that Uri wasn't given a head honcho position in the new OH-GEOS. I am sure Jenny has enough business-savvy to know where she and he belong. After all, OH would have bought GEOS not the other way around. I guess the grand plan fell apart for the little guy.

You know, I am currently unemployed, and would love to just jump on a plane, gallivanting around the world, visiting Japan, South America, Europe, and the Middle East, and it really gets under my skin, that mangers in GEOS get to do exactly that. I used to work there, and yet, they, the managers, still have jobs, and get to go fly all over the place. The company has been through a very lean period, and they should cut back on that crap, and stay close to home, if not just to save the company money, then to make people like me, who have been cast aside, and thrown on the scrap heap, feel better.

Honestly Uri, try to be a bit more sensitive. Can you imagine how it feels to me? I am sitting here, in front of the mirror, in my Mom’s basement, squeezing zits, knowing at some point soon, you are going to be in a quaint and eccentric Japanese bar somewhere, drinking perfectly poured ice cold ASAHI beers, eating delightful Japanese tit bits, and seeing karaoke. Please, cut back on the O/S travel, until I have at least had another 12 months, to get over myself. Please.

Are you just going to sit back oldCPA, and cop this kind of a beating, from those GEOS stooges? Get of your ASS, AND DO CHIME IN, PLEASE. Someone has to fight off the onslaught. The GEOS doomsayers are getting slaughtered in here!

gallivanting around the world, visiting Japan, South America, Europe, and the Middle East,

Sorry, I can travel anytime with a real job, making real money. I do not need the welfare of Special K and all his dirty money to get a few sales days here and there. Middle East? Last place I would want to go. Although you might want to go back there because your Saudi numbers are dwindling.

Nice to see the only Japanese worker at now-defunct GEOS Hawaii was moved over to GEOS Boston. Got to keep that

GEOS Web sites are great for some good entertainment when you have nothing else to do. Take for example the following:

Jen Sakonlaphan, B.A., M.A.
Administrative Staff (Intern)
From: Thailand
Jen is a new financial intern(1) for GEOS Boston. She has been living in Boston for 2 years and just finished Master Degrees(2) from Suffolk University in December. She has a background in financial and accounting and worked at an international company in Thailand before she got here. (3) This is her first time to work in the States. (4) She is excited to have an opportunity to use her knowledge and experience to work at GEOS Boston.

1. "Financial intern" is an official term at GEOS now? Must be investing in stocks, bonds, and other market instruments with all that cash they are raking in.

2. Got to love a "language school" that purports to "improve student language skills" that cannot even f-ing write themselves!

3. See #2. "in financial...", commas?

4. Ah, so formal....

Knock away, but you gotta admire the way the little fella has steered the company thru the hard recent months. With the Summer enrolments up and on the way no language schools (except, maybe, the poor sods down in NZ) are going to be in any danger for the next four or five months.
Hey, let's shift the emphasis from the negative to the positive and give the guy a bit of help from our extensive industry experience base?
How do u feel about these ideas for starters?:

1) Time for a gentle name shift.....eg add the new name to GEOS for a yesr (eg GEOS-Premier, or sumfin like that) and then gently slide away from the GEOS moniker.
2) Dunp some of the deadwood managers....Ottawa comes to mind immediately.
3) Choose three or four source countries and REALLY concentrate marketing there.

Ok, there's 3 not particularly startling ideas, off u go with contributions.

OK, let's keep Niall. He's got all the marks of a survivor. How anyone could have survived the Hostmonster leaks shambles is just in the land of the unbelievable. Do you all remeber the job applicant who contacted him to compalin that her details were being spewed out all over the net, and even then Niall didn't click to there being any sort of problem atall. Not one of GEOS North America's finests hours. But, suppose it just goes to prove NC is a bit of a survivor. So delete me no 2 suggestion.

Some really feeble comments lately attemting to portray GEOS as a 'success story' and due to the wonderful team effort and brilliant strategy of the RD.

Well, you have to hand it to them....they have picked up on the need to engage in some public relations. We cannot fault them on their attempt to try albeit unconvincing and embarassing.

You see GEOS, when one engages in PR it is not done by nameless persons. One releases a statement and signs it. One does not hide behind anonymity. One backs up comments with REAL financial data, REAL student numbers, staff stability etc. Example, you note how the release of the OH deal was announced by Mr Carnat in Language Travel under HIS name. Since then....SILENCE! Stand up and be counted boys and girls. Don't hide! If you are not prepeared to stand up and be counted, move on or stand down as a Manager. Of course you will have at the back of your minds that any release to the world which is untrue and designed to mislead will not augur well in a court of law. You GEOS managers afraid of this? Of course you are.

Every website, Mr Carnat publishes testimonials of 'happy students', so we ain't fooled by this, or the testimonial of the student who enrolled for a two week part-time course!!!!!

GEOS NA is regarded in the industry as a two bit operation.

Fair go, guv, how come the poster @2:46 and @9:51 is able to get away with pinchin' me moniker on LJ?????? This way no one knows oo is talkin about wot....fair go.

Turnover and Begging

In response to staff turnover someone noticed at several GEOS schools in NA lately, I found something interesting today:

GEOS Language Academy Montreal is looking for English teachers.

This is a wonderful opportunity to exchange cultures and to meet people from around the world. GEOS Language Academy Montreal is one of the biggest private language schools located in the heart of downtown Montreal.

All candidates should have a university degree and a TESL or CELTA or TESOL certificate.

If you are interested, please send your CV by e-mail to:

You may also refer to the website: http://www.geosmontreal.com/work_for_GEOS

Thank you very much.

Now if things are going oh-so-well, and people are just clamoring to work for GEOS, then why is the GEOS NA regional head office begging for teachers on Kijiji.ca? Anyone also notice the modal verb should Last time I checked, TESL Canada REQUIRES a degree to be TESL Canada certified, which is supposed to be the agreed upon standard of GEOS and Languages Canada. Standards? Nah! ???

Nobody outside of a very small group that posts on this board gives a toss about Geos. Their survival or not, what their managers, staff and students are or are not like. Nothing. Not a rats arse. Geos is a dead issue to just about everyone. But for the morons who think differently, well this is your happy home. You can safely bleat on here to your hearts content. And whenever someone points out what a bunch of twats you are you can say 'Oh that's HIM!!' Like Wow!

12:58 I give a shit! And it seems . Some might not like us to give a shit, but we do and it seems much more than any other conversation topic on here. You do not like it, you know where you can go. Stop being a whiny little bitch. Cry baby.

Remember a couple of us alerted everyone on here to a little trip the RD was making...There was a flurry of sad attempts to manipulate and control this board last week, but we said things would calm down because the Uri Carnat guy was going on a big trip. Well, what did we say? He is on his trip and the b.s. posts have all but disappeared.

Now, don't get us wrong...We probably will see a few attempts soon (especially after writing this) as the little fella gets settled in and starts racking up Blackberry Internet charges in Japan. There might be a few pro-GEOS posts in as little as a few hours from now, as the little guy gets ready to leave Japan for his next big adventure.

Watch...

Stop writing such stuff. There is a small group of Eikaiwa vigilantes out there, who want GEOS to implode, and want it’s managers burned to the stake alive. What about their feelings? I know what you say makes sense, but whoever you are, you are one hell of an insensitive son of a bitch. Just because they are a minority group, does not mean you should be so dismissive. They put a lot of hard work and effort, into cutting and pasting stuff from GEOS websites, character assassinating certain individuals, and commenting on newsletters. You could at least recognize their effort, even if it hurts to do so. Fairness and balance, that’s all we ask for. Please have a think about it.

3.50 you were absolutely right and at 8.03 read the earlier post about publishing facts and not meaningless trash! Sign the posting with your name.

We want facts, media releases signed.

As you emerge from the rubble, what are your plans to repay outstanding debts to Oceania? (you do remember of course that it was Oceania who bailed you out time and time again). You surely do have the moral integrity to settle your debts right? You would not deny this debt right?

Your posting 8.03 is utter drivel.

3:50 You were absolutely right. Wow, you called it exactly. Japan has opened for its business day and judging by the last four posts or so, looks like we infuriated the GEOS staffer. ;-) He is crying loudly today.

Shawn, I am sure if you look at the IP address you will see 8:03 to 9:02 are the same person posting. And you will also see it comes from a company computer. Time to contact the company. Give me the IP address and I will on your behalf. Obviously this individual doesn't have enough money for his own computer. Must be a sad little GEOS staffer.

Maybe it is time to talk about some things inside GEOS Montreal. Another teacher at GEOS Montreal left...Dean...Not to mention the constant teacher turnover that put Peter and Jenny into their respectful positions. Go Level 2! Being directly at the epicenter provides so many useful tidbits about the inner workings of GEOS NA. Too bad the little guy has gotten a little frustrated trying to figure out who it is and just resorts to crying these days.

This one always gets his goat.

I think I can shed light on why Matthew Chisholm was named on here. You see, he is the counter to GEOS Vancouver for Uri. Uri Carnat and him are pretty close, and this came about after Uri got into a tiff with the female head of GEOS Vancouver at the time. She did not agree with Uri and his "strategy", and rebuffed him as she should given she was the head and he only a manager of a little school. I think Uri saw her as an obstacle to his outright control of the GEOS NA "empire", so he was pissed and formed an alliance with GEOS Vancouver's neighbor and manager, Matthew Chisholm to get her out of there.

The sad part is, after starting GEOS in NA (first school and manager), and working tirelessly to build GEOS into a semi-successful NA operation, she was made the decision to resign after the undue pressure and gossip train from Uri. She was probably the only ethical cog in the big GEOS machine in NA. She was a true educator, while Uri was the used car salesman. She rightly got the heck out of there and left Uri Carnat to create his own mess to clean up.

Funny, because other language schools are doing finne in Australia, even expanding. Only GEOS failed in Australia, and that was because GEOS Japan and North America failed miserably. ILSC, the school chain from Canada that is spanking GEOS in the market, just bought schools and moved into Australia in a big way. Maybe Australia requires a little bit more intellect and business savvy, something we all know GEOS management doesn't have. Where is that Open Hearts mega-deal, GEOS??? You can't even figure out how to get bought!

Once again GEOS is a failure and butt of all the Eikaiwa jokes.

(In the end, keep writing if you want. But some of us won't be giving up anytime soon. Your other feeble propaganda attempts failed miserably before. This one will too. :-) Cheers!)

@10:23 It is not at all correct to describe the collapse of GEOS language schools in Australia as a "pull out". If it had been, where was the strategic planning beforehand? Where was the communication with students to ensure that they weren't left in the lurch? GEOS simply shut the doors, leaving its own students to fend for themselves, and a long line of other debtors.
While it is accurate that the high Aussie dollar, increased visa restrictions and concerns that Australia is racist and unwelcoming to international students have combined to cause a major reduction in international students in Australia, please don't try and spin these as reasons for a strategic "pull out".
Let's remember what actually happened. Stranded students, homestay and tuition funds that should have been protected in trust accounts nowhere to be found, unpaid staff left to find out about the collapse when they turned up for work. The Victorian Government has had to change legislation as a result of collapses like GEOS, to try and ensure that student funds aren't siphoned off overseas.

People are engaging with troll comments again, thinking they're genuine additions to the debate, when in fact they are designed merely to provoke a reaction off you, nothing more.

As pointed out earlier on the thread, you can either ignore the troll comments, in which case the troll either goes more and more psycho and loopy in its attempts to get a reaction, or else sits there unable to speak, in a spasticated cyber-stupor.

Alternatively, you can take the bait and respond to its comments, turn into a gibbering, spasticated troll yourself, and look like a total dunce, as all trolls do.

Choose your favorite way to proceed.

Just to see how the competition to GEOS NA is fairing, take a look at what ILSC is doing...This is the biggest competitor to GEOS in Canada. ILSC is kicking butt...Take a look at their expansion into Australia after purchasing schools (they did not want to purchase GEOS in Canada, so it says a lot). Web sites up and running, schools operational and filling...So much for GEOS; they cannot even get bought by Open Hearts. ILSC did all this in LESS time than the failed GEOS-Open Hearts negotiations.

http://goo.gl/rmF38

ILSC.ca

Wow! Just saw where the competent ELS language chain has moved into Canada - Vancouver and Toronto! Did not even realize it with all the talk about the GEOS language school chain problems. This is the chain that lured Mike, the old Director of GEOS NA, away from GEOS top spot in New York. Smartest move he ever made, especially with their huge expansion across the U.S. in the last six months. Not only are they a reputable chain, but they are now in GEOS Canadian backyard!

With ELS and also the award-winning Embassy CES chain moving into Canada in a big way, it is only a matter of time before GEOS loses more agents and students in a limited market.

P..S. Take a look at GEOS Web sites and then ELS's main Web site at ELS..com or ELS.edu. GEOS looks like it is stuck in another century! They do not even have e-commerce capabilities. Even the new ELS Canada site (ELSCanada.com) looks way better and they just started and only have two schools! Bye, bye, GEOS!

Just to clarify, English Language Centers actually go by "EC." Branding thing, I guess.

There could be just two guys on this entire forum. In fact, one guy could be having an argumentv with himself. Fight club.

Gordon: How sexist you are to assume it must only be "one guy/" Women never work at GEOS or other schools?

I do know the sad, pro-GEOS posts are only ONE PERSON. I will be publishing their IP address and maybe even a screen shot of their desktop just for good measure to prove so.

There is always room for a better post like this....

This one always gets his goat.

I think I can shed light on why Matthew Chisholm was named on here. You see, he is the counter to GEOS Vancouver for Uri. Uri Carnat and him are pretty close, and this came about after Uri got into a tiff with the female head of GEOS Vancouver at the time. She did not agree with Uri and his "strategy", and rebuffed him as she should given she was the head and he only a manager of a little school. I think Uri saw her as an obstacle to his outright control of the GEOS NA "empire", so he was pissed and formed an alliance with GEOS Vancouver's neighbor and manager, Matthew Chisholm to get her out of there.

The sad part is, after starting GEOS in NA (first school and manager), and working tirelessly to build GEOS into a semi-successful NA operation, she was made the decision to resign after the undue pressure and gossip train from Uri. She was probably the only ethical cog in the big GEOS machine in NA. She was a true educator, while Uri was the used car salesman. She rightly got the heck out of there and left Uri Carnat to create his own mess to clean up.

P.S. We will go post-for-post with you.. we can spend months countering your pro-GEOS propaganda. Enjoy.

I am one of those "negative" GEOS posters, too. But I do not get on here all the time due to my work. Let's just say I am in the backyard/ nexus of the "dirty" Geos chain. Maybe you could even say the corrupt core. :-D

So, there are THREE active regular posters, and a couple of intermittent ones, who got burned by GEOS, and maintain an active vigil, praying for the company’s demise.

That's ONE person posting about THEIR experience. I am not in that group, nor really know who except one I can guess. However I also got screwed over by GEOS and do post on here on occasion. So add another. Your ignorance and shameful dismissal of people's terribel experience with GEOS goes to show you how arrogant, corrupt and disgusting a company like GEOS is and the people who continue to work for them. Really, maybe I should also share a little bit about my experience of not getting paid, ripped off on overtime hours, etc. by the glorious GEOS Inc. Of course, you would just dismiss that as "not important" like seem you have dismissed ethical and moral business practices in running your shitty little language scams.

fully paid for trip to my Japan

Wow, you really do not have a clue....GEOS minions/ managers such as Uri Carnat do make much money. And when you accoutn for all that free Japanese-style overtime, he is most likely well below minimum wage. So let's hope he gets something "free"! Except GEOS uses Cheaptickets.ca and other bargain-hunting strategies. Can't imagine it is an "all-expense paid" trip on GEOS dime (especially under a BANKRUPTCY TRUSTEE!), nor is he sleeping in a nice hotel (try love motel) or livin' it up la vida loca in a five-star restaurant. I can imagine you are am entertainer/ "Egrish teacher" because you seem to have no concept of what really happens at the management level in GEOS. Those trips are usually only a few days, no time for jetlag adjustments, cheap hotel, must pay for your own food, and work like a dog all day long.

REALITY

Obviously you ARE a GEOS staffer because you are OBVIOUSLY to dumb to figure out the big picture/ ultimate consequences of your posts. People from many schools and other industries DO read this board. And the more you post, the more they will see such blatant arrogance and ineptitude. So much for "winning" (is your name Charlie Sheen?) considering it looks like someone is stringing you a long for a long ride that delivers greater Google search results for LetsJapan. Can't imagine the Uri- Carnat's and Matthew Chisholm' of the world (yes, those two deserve the negative publicity they are getting many times over) are happy with your free marketing campaign for everything bad about GEOS and them. Check Google yourself; you can now find their names on LetsJapan on the top of the rankings. Yup, you are doing a great job, aren't you, pushing Uri Carnat and Matthew Chisholm's name to the top of the heap. Shawn doesn't have to hire an overpriced SEO person to do it for him when he has you. You really are that moronic, aren't you? You must work for GEOS.

As now a manager for an educational outfit, if I receive a resume with GEOS listed in their experience I will promptly throw it in the trash. Yes, I have hiring authority and I would never hire someone that comes from an outfit that you work in, master poster. So when the next GEOS school or schools collapse (GEOS Costa Mesa and GEOS Calgary, anyone?), and teachers and staff make a b-line fore a job at another language organization, I will simply advise them to go directly to the unemployment insurance line of the local provincial or state government office instead. Who else in their right mind would hire such corrupt, incompetent, useless GEOS idiots?

That’s hilarious. An ex GEOS worker, now with hiring power elsewhere, who managed to get hired, but will throw any GEOS experienced workers applications in the bin.

Logically, you had better throw yourself in the bin, hadn’t you?

Grow a brain, before you write your next essay, please.

I agree that this online baiting of indiividual managers is pathetic. If I was hiring, I wouldn't touch ex GEOSers with a bargepole.

But in addition to being pathetic, it is also a largely innefective means of redressing the wrongs at GEOS. It's too easy to simply go on and on about a couple bad boys like that. You know, like Hitler is solely responsible for WW2 or something and all the soldiers who loaded people onto trucks are just 'doing their job' and not responsible.

You people are missing the point going after a couple of guys like that. What about all those new staff who just came into GEOS. What the hell is happening to them? What are you going to do to try to help them out? Answer: Nothing. Too damn difficult compared to just banging on here about a couple of guys you hate. You guys are not real activists at all. You are just about settling a few scores with people you don't like.

Hey, I do not mind if you post buddy. The whole search engine climbing is perfect for my "agenda." Keep posting and we will get more people to view Shawn's message board and the truth about GEOS in here. By the way, the board has about 95% negative posts about GEOS over a long period, so I doubt anyone will ever notice your posts in the mass of anti-GEOS writing on here. Your efforts will bring more eyeballs here though. Thanks.

Also, have you ever been diagnosed with a mental condition and/ or on prescription meds now? Just asking because honestly you seem a bit unstable. Nothing wrong with that since many people have mental conditions, but if you need help you can ask. I am being honest and I will even provide you my e-mail address to contact me off this board. You seem to be much more affected by the negative GEOS postings on here than anyone else, and if you really do not work for GEOS as you claim, I am a bit worried why you are so reactionary, anxious, trite, and compulsion to write a diatribe for every little detail. Again, nothing wrong with mental disorders and I am willing to help. Would you like to talk by e-mail?

Wow, 13:49, the other poster was right - you DO have mental issues. And now they are just downright. If you are so bothered by the negative GEOS posts on here then why are you still here? Why bother? I can only imagine someone who is so bothered and tries so hard to control the conversation and information leaks on here as being a current GEOS manager....One who is so overly pissed off at not being able to control his life or GEOS, and this board just sets him off. You sound like you need a lot of help. Please get some.

Again, you are actually doing the opposite of what you want on here. You are a) Improving the exposure of this board and b) ruining GEOS and GEOS manager/ staff reputation even more than it has been. You are definitely the epitome of an GEOS staffer. Thought you were going to get a big fat pension and 77 virgins when you retired from the great GEOS Mega Corporation, eh? Do you have an inferiority complex or something? I really feel for you.

If GEOS is doing so well, why is it begging for English teachers in a dead time like this? Especially the "North American HQs" in Montreal! Supposedly they lost 3 or 4 teachers in the last month. And it is not as if they have grown into more classrooms, still just 7 small classrooms and one tutoring room. Wow, things aren't boding well, eh?

Turnover and Begging

In response to staff turnover someone noticed at several GEOS schools in NA lately, I found something interesting today:

GEOS Language Academy Montreal is looking for English teachers.

This is a wonderful opportunity to exchange cultures and to meet people from around the world. GEOS Language Academy Montreal is one of the biggest private language schools located in the heart of downtown Montreal.

All candidates should have a university degree and a TESL or CELTA or TESOL certificate.

If you are interested, please send your CV by e-mail to:

You may also refer to the website: http://www.geosmontreal.com/work_for_GEOS

Thank you very much.

Now if things are going oh-so-well, and people are just clamoring to work for GEOS, then why is the GEOS NA regional head office begging for teachers on Kijiji.ca? Anyone also notice the modal verb should Last time I checked, TESL Canada REQUIRES a degree to be TESL Canada certified, which is supposed to be the agreed upon standard of GEOS and Languages Canada. Standards? Nah! ???

I knew he/ SHE was a GEOS staffer. The troll is back!

And he/ SHE is a very unstable people. Careful. Things must not be going well in GEOS-land because of his/ HER posts (see above) and what seems like his desperation to control things on here.

Oh, if you really want to know ...It is not just Uri Carnat or Mathew Chisholm you should be focusing on...It is RITA CHEN who is currently working out of Korea (little GEOS Korea office there). She is the main marketing coordinator for all of GEOS NA and was tasked recently to "clean up the mess" by Uri himself. Maybe that is why you can feel the desperation. Surprised some of you missed her. More could be said about her, but I will leave it at that until I see what happens here. ;-)

P.S. Shawn, check the IP to see if 14:23 and other similar posts are coming out of Korea. Take i t from there...

(b) Cut and Pastes from various GEOS NA websites, and negative analysis and never ending commentary about them
(c) Cut and Pastes from various GEOS NA circulars, even job advertisements, and endless banter about that

But GEOS does give us good fodder and laughter with their own material! How else could we cut and paste? LOL Maybe you need to contact GEOS so they do not provide such great comedic material. :-) Call your buddy Uri, the one you used to work with in Montreal.

Why are you so obsessed with GEOS, GEOS lovers, haters, and everyone else in between? If you hate them so much, and everything in here, then WHY COME BACK HERE, READ, and CRY ALL DAY! Go away! Do something with you life instead of bitching and self-punishment. You really do act and speak like yo have some sort of a mental issue. Maybe that us why one time you post one way, change, change again...You speak many tongues, don't you? And anti-GEOS posts are going to continue on here, especially the more you post. You really are a self-defeating individual, aren't you.

The 15:14 dude is nuts. Rita Chen? Maybe. But nuts? Absolutely.

Anyway, like the other poster said a) you cannot control things in here and b) the posts will go on no matter what. So it looks like you are in for a long and rough road, GEOS boy...girl...crazy.

;-)

Hey, I don’t want to control nuffin!

I want GEOS and ALL EIKAIWA, to slip into the bowels of the earth, get pulverized, and then projectile vomited into the vacuum of outer space, in one giant, volcanic purge.

Yup, that’s what I want.

However, you people really should get over your GEOS obsession.

Honestly, you will end up in the nut house, like me, pulling the legs of flies, which get caught in the corners of my windowsill.

It aint fun, let me tell you.

Boys, I now very worry bout debate standard here on LJ nowadays. Please clean up act. No more silly boy. No more calling people nut. OK? Be good boys. No more use my name in post, Just polite talk now. Ok? Bye, bye. Have to go and write new newsletter.

...but newsletter hard! Have to spell right and stuff. Make up "facts" about student numbers and such...Uri always screaming for more!...wants more but we have no more! Things not going well but have think of so many stories!!! And never get this month's GEOS Victoria newsletter done yet...Oh, right, it is closing this year. Don't need one...:-O

And why we get Korean students from Korea from me in Korea, but hen . That f-ing Kim O Kran Korean student agency in Montreal! We thought we could bypass her by going straight to the source, Korea, and spend lots of money. But now she just gets all of our Korean students anyway at GEOS Montreal and convinces them to go to new, small school near Sayaka's apartment. Why?! Why Eun Ju control our students!!!! Jinnie and Jungwoo, get back to GEOS. Stop going to that damn school in Monkland!!!

It's a fucking scam, Eikaiwa. I don't mean the whole of teaching, so don't get your panties in a tangle, but Eikaiwa is a fucking joke, and it's unraveling, so we all move on. Some of us continue to work for dodgy organisations, because we have dodgy DNA, but the rest of us take it as a lesson in life, and go legit. I'm not exactly sure what is to be gained by cyber crucifying people like Uri fucking Carnat, whoever he is, because you, me, Shawn, and everyone who ever put on the necktie had our noses in the trough at some point, and was perfectly happy to take our slice of the pie, so please by all means continue to post here, but no one gets out with their integrity intact.... NO ONE!!!!

Rita, going to post again soon? Miss you on here today...I know the little Uri fella was supposed to meet you in Korea, Just be careful of the Kim O Kran one in Montreal. She is scooping your students and sending them elsewhere.

Rumblings...Possibly see Canadian school close this year. Target Victoria (seasonal and redundancy with Van) and Calgary (never took off). 10 schools in 2011?