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GEOS North America Sold to Open Hearts International College
GEOS North America Announced on September 10 that it has signed a letter of intent [PDF] for the acquisition of all 12 GEOS schools in North America by Florida-based Open Hearts International College.*
When GEOS' Australia schools suddenly closed, GEOS North America was quick to tell its students that everything was OK. That didn't work out very well, did it? Now Open Hearts is making a similar statement:
Open Hearts International College, under owner and President Jenny Nieveen, has run a successful school in Miami for over 10 years, and with the acquisition of the GEOS operations, the goal of the company is to create the strongest and largest group of language schools in North America.
Upon the completion of the sale, GEOS North American schools will retain all staff and the company will continue to offer the highest level of customer service to both students and partners, local and international. The schools will also retain the “GEOS” name as well as relationships and commitments to all agents and vendors.
Open Hearts International College and GEOS North America look forward to building on the mutual strengths of both companies, and on becoming an industry leader in North America and around the world.
It's interesting that they are keeping the GEOS name given how quickly GEOS Australia and GEOS Japan collapsed earlier this year. Other than the press release, I know nothing else about the deal. Consider this an open thread to talk about the remains of GEOS North America.
*OK, the title of this post is misleading. GEOS has not been sold at this point, but expectations are that the deal will eventually be done.
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GEOS Montreal claims in their newsletters to have 248 students. Yup, the little-ass school with six or so puny classrooms could not even fit half of those students let alone staff. They would double their fire-rated capacity. Maybe someone should call the fire department. Ha, ha!
P.S. Same b.s. statistics we always see from GEOS from GEOS Montreal, run by, wait...., Uri Carnat. Go figure.
Dog-umentary on Monkey Bridge
Out of curiosity, does anyone out there know, what date Nova officially stopped sponsoring it’s racing team?
Also, does anyone have a list of the Snack Bars that Saruhashi used to frequent?
Any information on his favorite restaurants, clubs, etc etc would be appreciated.
We are doing the research for a dog-umentary, on that scallywag.
Blocking GEOS messages?
I say let the GEOS NA crowd have their fun until this Open Hearts deal goes through. Then I think they should find a north American-based site for their discussions, because whatever they want to say will have no relevance here. As for GEOS in Japan, it'll be pretty much gone soon except for a handful of schools (mis)managed by G.education and its tax-dodging new/former boss.
Also, some how, some way, it is obvious CELTA MACK has found his way back in here, but under a different alias. Between GEOS and CELTA MACK posts, the potential benefit of this blog is being lost. Please do something.
Yes, this is Mackorello. I
Yes, this is Mackorello. I see the Mackorello moniker is now banned, after you spammed the board with it, due to your weird obsession with Mackorello and CELTA.
Ha ha ha, that showed you!!
Update from a teacher working at GEOS Canada.
When people doubt the relevance of this board and the importance of inside information, I must chime in and say this board is EXTREMELY useful to those who worked or currently work with most of these scam operations. I am currently employed by GEOS Canada (of course I won't go further than that for obvious reasons) and I can say it has been highly educational, informative and downright useful for us still working for one of these corrupt Japanese eikawa chains. Most have no idea how we, the staff and former staff of GEOS NA, communicate through this board, mostly on our own computers after work, to keep abreast of everything and warn each other as to what really is going on. No amount of GEOS HO warning and downright threats has stopped this, and no amount of board police postings on here should either. This includes leaking info from the inside from time to time, which is highyl useful to understand what is really happening in the indutry and its impact on all aspects of it in the near future.
GEOS NA is STILL owned by a JAPANESE company and things are still in flux as to ownership, services provided, etc. as evidenced by some of the shifting of ownership reported recently. Uri Carnat, Regional Director of GEOS NA, still has very close ties to the former owner Mr. K. (there is more going on than most know, except maybe Shawn), as well as others in the Japanese companies, so more info might come out shortly regarding this that is very useful in understanding the dynamic of the whole industry. Patience, people, as you will see everything unfold over the next six months
By the way, didn't anyone notice that the GEOS NA sale to THIS BOARD DOES HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THINGS LIKE THAT!!! Right now I cannot say anymore than that.
Correction to the last line above:
By the way, didn't anyone notice that the GEOS NA sale has not gone through like promised by Mr. Carnat in September? Trust me, this is a sale that should have already gone through given what transpired in Japan recently. THIS BOARD DOES HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THINGS LIKE THAT!!! Right now I cannot say anymore than that but all on here will understand the improtance of posts like mine and GEOS NA in regards to what is happening in the whole Eikawa industry, including Japan.
I agree....most of us are extremely grateful for the postings to this board. Too many people have been hurt through the deceit of this shameful company.
Are you able to shed a little more light on the relationship between Carnat and kusunoki? What could they possibly be talking about? Is carnat kusunoki's last remaining ally? Has Chisholm become carnat's 'puupy'? What is the go with him? Where is kusunoki?
No
How about you stop reading this thread instead?
Shawn
I don't know a lot about the inner workings of GEOS apart from what tidbits I might get in email. That's why this thread is here.
Shawn
I was wondering what was keeping that certifiable lunatic under wraps.
I have never understood why people like Mackorello are so determined to bury what is important in here with endless bullshit.
There are more important things happening, and it looks like the walls are finally closing in on GEOS.
Thanks for all the useful updates people. GEOS deserves the very worst.
Thanks, Shawn, for banning the Mackie moron guy. A few of us have an inclination as to who it really is, but we will just leave it at that.
There really is a lot of interesting tidbits about GEOS operation, and I have been able to piece together my sometimes limited (and sometimes not-so-limited) knowledge of GEOS and the industry around it. Not all of it is always accurate or in good faith, but most of us can weed through the b.s. and learn something from the leaked info.
Pay attention to anything related to Open Hearts, GEOS NA and management, and former owners. It will determine a lot about the future of the industry, including in Japan with all the owner changes and money shifting around. Smart and experience Eikaiwa people can see this........
Smart AND experienced?
There are quite a few out there in the real world, who would like to kick his ass.
Moving on, however, is there such thing as a “smart” AND “experienced” Eikaiwa person?
Don’t those two words cancel each other out?
I am certainly not trying to start a flame war, but I think it is quite accurate to say, that only idiots in the main, hang around long enough in Eikaiwa, to qualify as being “experienced”.
Long-termers in Eikaiwa more often than not end up at the extreme end of being loopy.
Look at Mackorello, for example.
I agree, Mackorello should be banned, a name which had become a fixation for a particular poster on this board, used as a way of unloading his own insecurities and weaknesses onto people, and thereby pissing everybody off entirely!
Ad yes, it does show what happens to you when you end up working in eikaiwa for too long and don't get properly accredited qualifications. There are good teaching jobs and organizations to work for out there - I mentioned two earlier in the British Council and International House. Getting a CELTA or Trinity TESOL might eventually land you a job with one of those. Without that though, you're going to be in eikaiwa hell for the rest of your life, and/or stuck in a dead-end, like Mackorello.
It is out! The GEOS Montreal October newsletter is finally out, a few weeks late...And what do we see?
1. GEOS Montreal now claims to have, wait, hold onto your seats.............254 students!!!!!! They have increased their student total in the slow period magically. How did that happen? Uri must be the master magician. No mention if the fire department or building management will be called considering the schoool is only rated to hold about 100 students maximum at any given time. They have 5 classrooms for a total of, wait, maybe 75 students if you took out the tables and pushed a little. You do the math...
2. Whoa, look at that testimonial....From McDonald's!!! Yup, they got their shocase student from their "business internship" program a a job at . $1,200 placement fee later, this poor girl is proud of working at McDonald's (still not joking, she is working there!). Too bad this poor little girl did not know they would have probably paid her to come to an interview. Good luck, Michelle! Enjoy your . ** See GEOS new Business Internship brochure for even more absurdity in this matter, as GEOS Montreal shocases its wonderful achievement of getting people into McDonald's and a window washing job through its $1,200 Business Internship program! Congrats, GEOS Montreal! You are doing the langguage school business well.
3. The reason why GEOS Montreal delayed their October brochure until mid-month: Uri Carnat was banking on announcing the "sale of GEOS NA to open Hearts International" in huge letters. He is a little bummed it did not go through yet.....Some sort of a delay. ;-)
See more here: http://geosmontreal.com/geos_montreal_newsletter_september2010
Only the tip of the iceberg. Many of you have some knowledge of what goes on, some a lot, some not so much. All the inside knowledge is very important for the outside people to understand the full and true dynaic of what is and has gone on.
As for people mentioning the dirty tricks and business practices of Mathew Chisholm (GEOS Victoria), Rita Chen (GEOS Montreal, moving to GEOS Korea office), and the infamous Uri Carnat, well, these people got what is coming to them. All three are well known in the language education industry as kissing each others asses, talking behind each others backs, and generally treating the people around them at GEOS (and other insitutions) poorly and sometimes in downright dreadful ways. So, like the Japan callouts, these people should be named. Now if only we had the time to list all their misdeeds....But that would take a while.
From a person with tremendous experience in GEOS, I really hope Jenny Nieveen from Open Hearts keeps asking questions and pulling out records, etc. before they jump into bed with these slimey people. Otherewise, Jenny Nieveen and company might get burned in the near future.
I think all SELL-TA Mack Posters should be banned....
...........cause they can't help plugging, the same old line, which no-one wants to read........
I quite agree, they should all be banned. This SELL-TA Mack thing has become an obsession, and is destroying the board, and a certain poster's mind.
I'm afraid you need to get your facts straight. A CELTA or Trinity TESOL plus 1-2 years experience are minimum requirements for jobs with International House and the British Council. Why do you have such a problem with the plain facts? Is it because your English-teaching career went down the chute and you ended up in some dead-end existence in the back of beyond?
How far can your career go with "A CELTA or Trinity TESOL plus 1-2 years experience"?
Bottom line is, not very far at all.
I think they can help you feel a little more secure about yourself, but really, even then, in an "accredited" work place, you have a ceiling not two inches above your head, with such ordinary and basic tickets behind your name.
A lot of people, who make a living doing the monkey dance in Japan, and know it is stupid, get basic entry level qualifications, in an attempt to convince themselves, they are not doing the monkey dance, but rather, are doing a waltz.
CELTA or TRINITY, and throw in 2 years of experience on top of that, you are still a pelvic thrusting entertainer, no matter who your employer is, doing the monkey dance for peanuts.
The only difference is, Monkey A compared with Monkey B has a Certificate pinned to his/her chest.
The circus act, remains the same.
If you don't have a renowned Masters or PHD, then in the teaching english game, your career options are basically non-existant.
However, if you need entry level tickets, to convince yourself, you have a "career" in Japan, and are different to or better than all the other performing chimpanzees, in order to defer actually doing something of true meaning in your life, then all the very best to you.
Does everyone notice when inside info gets leaked on here about Uri and company é GEOS NA, the SELL-TA Mack posts just suddenly appear....EVERY time...??? Coincidence? Nope. Someone tries their darndest to re-directed or otherwise disrupt the conversation. Always on the GEOS NA/ related threads, but nowhere else. Hmmmmm...
I found this post much more enlightening and to the point about GEOS NA/ Open Hearts. Very interesting, especially the parts in bold. ;-)
The worsdt part is GEOS has been out promoting the heck out of their "ability" to land some poor girl a job at McDonald's. If that is the best you have for your brochure, you can see why GEOS failed so miserably. Shotty management and complete incompetence.
How far can your career go
You've completely lost it mate. CELTA/Trinity and experience can get you a job in a place like International House or the British Council. From there, you take a Diploma or other further qualifications like a renowned Master's, building your experience and developing your career.
You obviously could never get beyond the dancing monkey/pelvic-thrusting routine, and it pains you to think that there's somebody out there in Japan who did move on from that, and followed the career path just outlined.
Can someone please start a special SELL-TA Mack thread?
Or better still, can you, SELL-TA Mack, start your own blog, called "Using CELTA to land you a better job and life working for International House or the British Council".
You are STILL just a monkey SELL-TA Mack, no matter what, the only difference being, you beat your own chest, more than the average gorilla out there does.
Good luck with your Diploma, and then your Masters, and your eventual career, waiting for you, while you crawl through your endless list of back-packer certificates, letting the entire universe know who wonderful you are, all the while.
I am sure your Mummy and Daddy must be very proud of you.
Mate, I don't know who you are but you've got a very strange obsession with this "SELL-TA Mack" creation of yours. I don't think anybody is interested in reading your semi-psychotic online ramblings about his CELTA career, Masters and Diploma, especially as you're making all this stuff up in your head, and none of it has anything to do with GEOS.
If Japan really ruined your life that much, might I suggest you switch off your computer and try sorting yourself out, instead of getting jealous of imaginary characters you've invented for yourself?
You've got SELL-TA Mack and monkeys on the brain mate. Look, it's not SELL-TA Mack (or the monkey's) fault that you screwed your life up in Japan. Projecting your hang-ups onto them - about being a dancing monkey, about there being no life beyond NOVA, GEOS or wherever - is running away from reality.
Some people do make a life of it in Japan, no matter how much you try to project your own self-image of being a dancing monkey onto them. The fact that you couldn't make it shows just how weak and pathetic a person you are, that's all. Just accept it. Feeling belittled by "SELL-TA Mack" and trying to bring him down to your dancing monkey level isn't going to change that. Once you accept you're useless, it won't bother you any more.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. I'll leave it at that, and suggest you follow your own advice and do the same (and stop stalking people eh?)
I will defnitely second that. Looks like you know a little bit of what goes on, but dig a little further. Make sure you look in the direction of "GEOS Team East" for complex clues as to money-funneling (via Special K), back-stabbing ( Urr Carnat, and competitive jealousy ( Uir Carnat and Martha Munroe ) that lead to the "releasing" of the most successful GEOS manager in Canada....And, no, it is NOT Uri Carnat in Montreal. Far from it.
For those investigating douche-baggery and scuminess, look no further then Mathew Chisholm at GEOS Victoria, whic is the pet and puppet of Uri Carnat at GEOS Montreal. The whole reason Uri is so nice to Mathew is because Uri got bitch-slapped by the women of GEOS Vancouver some time ago. Poor little guy's ego was hurt even further.
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Should have read above " Uri Carnat " and not ""Urr" or "Uir".......Then again, who has such a shitty name anyway? ;-)
Tell us more! You sound like someone I might know!!! :-)
"I'll leave it at that".
We all hope so, but that will be the day.
You will be back. You can't help yourself.
I knew you wouldn't follow your own advice. Couldn't help yourself, such is the depth of your obsession with SELL-TA Mack. You'll be back on here posting as him under a different name in no time.
SELL-TA Mack and Uri Carnat
This has been going on for a while now, this SELL-TA Mack obsession. Is it really Uri Carnat of GEOS trying to wipe the board out do you think? Or is it some crazed troll?
It seems like whoever it is is now placing this SELL-TA Mack persona onto other posters on here. In fact, he'll probably think that I'M SELL-TA Mack now.
If it is Uri Carnat, he's lost the plot completely.
Yeah, but the SELL-TA Mack thing has nothing to do with this thread and always shows up only when Uri Carnat, Rita Chen, or sometimes Matt Chisholm get called out. Obvious one of those three do not like being called out, so SELL-TA shows up magically every time they are and always on North American time. Coincidence?
As for obsession, well, it seems Uri has earned it judging from this board over the last 6 months and other boards on the Internet. Not to mention what you hear through the GEOS school grapevine. Matthew Chisholm is just a Uri Carnat lapdog from everyone I have talked with and complicent in moving Uri's agenda forward....So he is called out by association, I guess. Rita Chen? I heard she is a little snobby, likes to kiss Uri's ass (work together in Montreal), and generally sends fake e-mails to other schools/ competitors on a weekly basis wasting everyone's time. I do not know much more about her and why she is named a lot, but probably others know more than me. And her working beside Uri Carnat probably doesn't help her rep. too much......
Just my two cents.
Why don't you just take a hint Mackorello, and go and find somewhere else to post?
Nah, SELL-TA Mack is all about deflecting the conversation away from some of the craziness we have heard about Uri Carnat and company. Notice how SELL-ta never worries about Rita Chen and Mathew Chisholm getting called out on here?
Oh, it is nice to see someone posting on North American time...but the desperate attempts to stop us from posting about the dirty deeds of Uri Carnat, Rita, etc. have no succeeded. You people have turned on you, using their own computers on their own time....Deal with it. When you treat people like shit and are corrupt as can be (maybe only Special K tops that list), then deal with end game........
It could well be Uri Carnat. He's now throwing out random comments about "Mackorello" and telling him to "take a hint" and go post somewhere else. A sure sign that the heat is getting to him. Why else would someone get so wound up by comments about CELTA, International House and the British Council?
Perhaps you should just accept that you're a pathetic waste of space, stop winding everyone up with your SELL-TA Mack nonsense, and crawl off to mommy. I'm sure she's got a nice, juicy dummy for you to suck on.
He'll now continue with the SELL-TA Mack line to deflect attention away from this, and from the negative comments about GEOS. Just you watch.....
Uri Detector: is your life that sad that you are on here on a Saturday night in Canada moaning and crying like a little girl about someone "wasting their time / space here"??? Are you that stupid and petty?
This Uri Carnat guy, along with Rita and Mikey, seemed to have pissed a lot of people off on this board. Judging by the legitmatr comments on here, they have good reason to air the dirty laundry on here. Now I do not know if Uri has been on here lately, since he is spending every waking minute trying to salvage the busted Open Hearts megadeal, but I can tell you he used Google Alerts to religiously monitor his name online 24/7. And since any names on Let's Japan tend to be picked up by Google's alert service, I am sure he gets back here often. Have a shit-fit, Uri? ;-)
Anonymous, is your life that sad that you are on here on a Saturday night Canada time moaning and whining about somebody posting something mentioning Uri Carnat? Are you that stupid and petty?
Jenny Nieveen: Do you really
Jenny Nieveen: Do you really want to get involved the mess known as GEOS? Seriously, you have better things to do with your life and business. Look at what you are going to be involved in...GEOS is a mess, losing money (don't be fooled by manipulated numbers), GEOS has no credible brand name in the market, GEOS employees are demoralized, ex-GEOS staff hate the company and show it on here, GEOS competitors in North America despise GEOS for its shitty "business" practices, Uri Carnat is hated by anyone connected to GEOS, Mathew Chisholm is Uri's lapdog and co-conspirator,
Open Hearts & Jenny Nieveen: Do you really want to associate yourself with this mess and ruin your good name??? Or are you just as corrupt as Uri Carnat / Rita Chen and company?
P.S. There is a REASON Rita Chen is leaving GEOS Montreal to Korea.......Something to do with getting as far away from the little man as possible. She is tired of his advances to name one.
Take a hint and just go SELL-TA Mack
Why is it, you can't take just obvious hints, and just piss off? Are you crazy or something? What on earth is the matter with you? I enter this thread to get updates about GEOS, not to read your bullshit, so just fuck off.
Exactly, I agree. If you are not talking about GEOS or people an integral part of GEOS, such Uri Carnat, Jenny Nieveen, Rita Chen etc,, then go to another thread. SELL-ta has no place here. Go look for a boring SELL-ta thread.
Notice too that every single
Notice too that every single one of this person's posts refers to SELL-TA. Nothing useful about GEOS. He'll keep trying his utmost to get you to feed him so he can wipe the board out.
If you're really interested in GEOS, ignore him.
By continually posting about whichever troll is making all the CELTA posts, you're wiping the board out by yourselves!
As for GEOS NA, is there any more substantial information about who actually owns it at the moment, i.e. is it G.communication or did they flog it off to Inayoshi when they got rid of GEOS Japan and NOVA?
Exactly. Let's get back to talking about Open Hearts and what looks like GEOS failed attempt to get bought buy them. Uri Carnat reallu blew the poocj on this one. Those leaked financial documents from GEOS Ottawa earlier showed the Regional Director himself projecting improved profits as of October with the sale of GEOS to OH complete. And with GEOS Japan sold once again, there is absolutely no reason GEOS NA should be still sitting around independent.
What gives, Uri Carnat? As someone mentioned earlier, GEOS.net delayed the agent newsletter in anticipation of GEOS sale announcement. Then it got released late and with no sale announcement. What gives? Anyone fill us in?
What did happen to that bigh
What did happen to that bigh sale announcement? Obviously there were some serious roadblocks since GEOS Japan/ G. Comm woudl love to unload on GEOS NA stat. Why the delay?
Even bigger question, how is Jenny Nieveen and open Hearts going to navigate a sale to GEOS and still "promote" thier partner schools as an agent in the SAME cities GEOS has schools in??? ILSC, LSC, and many others have schools that compete with GEOS language academies....What gives? If OH buys GEOS, it is a defnitie conflict of interes and quite possibly very illegal. Can't see OH giving up its international agent business anytime soon. I can see Uri Carnat trying to sway OH away from those internation school-agent contracts in a desperate attempt to limit competition and his biggest competitors.
What gives? Anyone with further knowledge on this?
GEOS NA sale? Yeah, what's up
GEOS NA sale?
Yeah, what's up with that anyway? Where is the mega-billion dollar announcement???
P.S. Me, too, wonders what happens to all those school-agent contracts Open Hearts amassed under maybe false pretenses.....Give up all those industry connections and relationships for shitty ol' GEOS? Yikes.
Mackorello has wound people up the wrong way in here and in other places for years.
Unfortunately, just banning the tag "Mackorello" is not enough.
With all the important things (Inayoshi / GEOS - real things, that impact on real instructors), going on at the moment, you still get little squirrels, like Mackorello, who simply can't help but placing themselves, and their lunatic rituals and tendencies, in front of anything and anyone else.
Talk about self-obsession to the extreme.
There is one thing I have learned from all his insane posts, posts to himself, and different masks, and insane ramblings, and that is, if anyone with a SELL-TA qualification applies for a job at my company, I definitely won't be giving them a job, that's for sure.
Got to love the . You actually think we are falling for that? You rant and post endless ramblings about SELL-ta Mack on here when SELL-ta Mack is long gone. Why keep yapping about him? Maybe because you are SELL-ta Mack in disguise, trying desperately to hide the leaking info out of the ship.
What really matters i what and others po
a. Does Jenny Nieveen really want to get into bed with a dirty, slimy operation known as GEOS, run by an even nastier man named Uri Carnat?
b. Careful of Mathew Chisholm, who is Uri's lapdog. Pretty much anyone at GEOS Team West knows this....But they don't let on.
c. When Uri Carnat and friends are "proud" of "placing" an internship at....MCDONALD'S...for the not-small sum of $1,600 in "Internship Placement" fees, and even gloat about it in their workplace program newsletter, something is definitely wrong with
d. Open Hearts has a lot of answering to do if they get in bed with GEOS and Uri, and then try to pretend to represent other schools in their network fairly and adequately....Schools that compete directly with GEOS.
d. NEW SCOOP: If the sale goes through to OH, Niall Campbell is out the door. Rumour has it Niall is not loved much since he could not keep a lid on all those leaked documents and communications on the Internet. But instead of dumping him a la Martha Munroe, Niall is being kept around for image sake to "close the deal" with open Hearts. Trying to keep a squeaky-clean image, right? You heard it from the horse's mouth here first. Mark my words.
Just MHO...
My interest lies in the comment about conflict of interest in the GEOS sale to OH.....OH must address this issue and nothing looks good for them. Canèt see them losing all those schools in their network and cannot see any of the schools being happy that they would be combined with GEOS NA. I am sure Uri would love for it to be so to disrupt any agreements in a vain and sad attempt to block competition. Just cannot see it going through, though.
The Niall comment is interesting and plausible. But I have no inside info on this. I guess we just need to stay tuned...Even if the sale was already supposed to be done three weeks ago.
Plans for GEOS NA... ?
I don't think I've seen anything that looks like one of his posts for quite a while (they usually say "CELTA is a good place to start" at least ten times) so it is interesting that, with much more important things going on at the moment, this is what you choose to comment on. Give it a rest, please.
Anyway, Inayoshi's plans for GEOS are all a bit vague at the moment. It's not clear how many Japanese GEOS schools are closing or being merged into "NOVA X GEOS" schools (effectively just NOVA schools, except for the new name), and of course there's even less news about overseas operations. Who knows, Inayoshi might even decide he wants to keep the GEOS NA schools - it wouldn't be the most incomprehensible decision he's made. In any case I'd be surprised if anything happens until after the dust has settled with GEOS Japan.
Nobody is talking abotu CELTA. You keep repeating about SELL-ta MAck who left (or did he?) a long time ago.
We are talking about Open Hearts (the thread just happens to be named from this!) and the co-conspirators...Uri Carnat (much hated and slimy man from the posts we have seen on here), Mathew Chisholm (who seems to be Uri Carnat;s lapdog), and Rita Chen (bolting out of Uri's office for largely unknown reasons.
Here it is below if you haven't noticed...Nothing about SELL-ta...
Again, nothing about SELL-ta...Nice try, though...
But Uri made allowance in his GEOS NA financial statements for a definite sale and the "new" OH-GEOS operations to begin in October of this year. Take a look at the leaked documents. Obviously the new GEOS owner had no plans for GEOS NA to be in the fold.
You'll know a lot better than I do, although I got the idea the GEOS NA sale was arranged long before G.communication sold its G.education subsidiary to Inayoshi. There does appear to be something holding up the sale and I was wondering what it is, although I'm sure it's still a done deal.
Teaching English in Japan is a joke! A lot of people on this forum
talk about qualifications, well they don't mean anything here in the land of the rising sun because at the end of the day the large majority of the students are just going through the motions and do not fully comprehend what is needed to aquirer a language. It is more of an aquisition that something learned a skill gained. There are so many cultural barriers that stomp on the Japanese ability to learn and use the English language that they really need to stop, reevaluate and change the way it is taught here. So many teachers just end up asking a whole lot of mundane questions just to get the Japanese student to speak or show the remotest amount of interest/ knowledge in a topic, most teachers who stay in the industry long term end up on Prozac or in an institution when they return back home.
My advice don't teach English in Japan, don't waste money geting qualifications because the Japanese don't really care about it deep deep down. They may smile but that doesn't mean what they mean, know what I mean. I am off to teach 6 Engineers English like I have done for the past year and they will proceed to stare at the ceiling pondering the answer to my questions. I have showed them a better way and given lots of tools to aid in their learning but they choose to stare with folded arms and ponder for an hour and a half each week. Hey the customer is always right!!!!
It virtually doesn't exist. Has anyone ever actually seen an English teacher in Japan teaching English?
I agree that qualifications are by-and-large a waste of time. The plain fact is that you simply don't need a qualification (like CELTA or whatever) to sit there talking rubbish to people and dancing around like a monkey. It's the preserve of no-hopers who can't do anything else with their life.
CELTA is only recognized by a few places (like International House and the British Council). Unless you're looking to work for them, it's a waste of time.
And even then, chances of landing a job with them are next to non-existent. And in any case, so what? Like anybody cares.
Since SELL-ta Mack seems to be back batting for the other side now, but still tryingt o disrupt this board and anything we seem to talk about realting to Open Hearts and Uri Carnat (coincidence?), we need to get things
What do people think about this statement:
Maybe this is why we haven't seen a sale yet with OH and GEOS NA. Was supposed to happen in combination with the GEOS Japan. There is absolutely no way G. Comm wanted to delay things further...Period. What's going on, Uri?
Be very wary of Mathew Chisholm at GEOS Victoria. He is sly and smiley, but be be wary. My connection at GEOS Team West always tells me how much of an arrogant and conceited jerk he is. He thinks he controls GEOS West from his little school in Victoria. Maybe it is a toss up between Uri Carnat and Mathew Chisholm for the biggest ass, but most importantly they both represent the old guard at GEOS that needs to go so the employees have a future.
Uri Carnat and Mathew Chisholm are DEFINITELY the old guard at GEOS! Get rid of them and you might have an ethical operation.
And Open Hearts is absolutely crazy to get in bed with them. They will have their business destroyed....Agents hate these guys and GEOS in general. At least change the name from GEOS to Open Hearts, geez! You might have a fighting chance then.
Rita Chen is in Korean now. Working hard for dear ol' Uri boy. Kissing all the Korean agent's asses since GEOS pissed them off quite handily before. Is it worth the expense? Time will only tell.
Whacko Macko. You are doing such a good and consistent job, even though you are posting under “anonymous”, of taking it right up to and showing all and sundry THAT you are not the SELL-TA extremist that you have been painted out to be, and can even converse, if only given the air time, about things, like GEOS, well, I just think Shawn might consider lifting the ban on your avatar MACKORELLO. Keep up the good work, and keeping putting in the tremendous effort. You are really teaching the lot of us, that you are not the crazed son of a bitch and nutcase that we all assumed you to be, NOT.
Meantime, you are always welcome to open your own blog Whacko Macko, and then you can attempt to control the topic of conversation, until your heart is content.
Can you just explain who you're talking to? There's nobody listed on here as Whacko Macko or SELL-TA Mack. Nobody knows what the hell you're ranting on about (apart from deflecting attention away from GEOS).
If you have noticed, every time we talk about GEOS NA, Uri, some idiot rambles on about SELL-ta/ No SELL-ta. Like he is talking to himself. Seriously, your efforts
These are the last thress posts (below) just before the SELL-ta/ GEOS crazy got on and tried to disrupt the board. Nothing about SELL-ta in these posts, as everyone can see. I think most of us can figure out what is going on...Too bad it is not working for the little guy, eh? ;-)
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Hey Whacko, why with the pretend, that you really give a rats ass about GEOS, Rita Chen, any of them, "eh"? Why pretend you are not you, but rather, are posting about you? You really are a whacker. A total nutcase. LMFAO ! Do what you do, try what you try, run where ever you want to run, but NOTHING will change the fact, that you are nothing more, than insignificant and stupid SELL-TA Mack! Sorry nutter, but you've been outed! Go spend your time doing something productive, for once.
Knew I would catch you and get under your skin. Most know who you are...so obvious. The hieght inferioriy complex thingy gave it away. Guess your little SELL-ta strategy on here did not work so well.
This thread is for Open Hearts and GEOS , NOT SELL-ta. Maybe you just cannot read....The names Rita Chen, Uri Carnat, Mathew Chisholm, etc. relate to GEOS NA and Open Hearts. Nice to see Google Alerts working well for you.
Certainly none of the established and reputable agents would have any confidence in GEOS. But paying 35-40% commission goes a long way in 'restoring faith'. Why would any agent want to work with the GEOS name?
Canada and the USA should be booming with international students given that the Australian dollar is so high right now. I believe that Australian schools are finding it tough at the moment.
Jenny N....do your due diligence thoroughly!!
So what have GEOS senior management done about their computer security breeches? Have they advised US/Can authorities yet?
He seems to think that there's a guy called SELL-TA Mack posting on here, some English teacher who thinks he's God because he's got a CELTA, a Masters, a PhD and a career at International House and the British Council.
I don't think it's anyone from GEOS trying to deflect attention, just some nutcase troll with no life who's very very paranoid about posters on the Internet and has developed a complex about this "person". He'll carry on in the same vein as he seems to think everybody on this thread could be "SELL-TA Mack".
There really are some nutjobs out there.
how is any of this relevant to Japan?
He seems to think that....
Whacko, just drop it. Everyone knows it is you. Just drop it, get a life, and piss off. There is important shit going down at the moment, and no-one wants or needs to read your pathetic shit. Seriously, piss off. Go to the pub, whatever, but whatever the case may turn out to be, please just stop posting. Seriously, we have all had enough. Please stop posting, and go away.
You guys are complete
You guys are complete crackpots. Who the fuck is "Whacko"?
Pretty sad that between your nonsensical babblings you're making up insults such as "sell-ta" and repeating them ad nauseum because you obviously think they're clever, but no one other than yourself knows what the fuck you're going on about.
If this thread is not just one guy babbling back and forth to himself, then this NA thread is like a magnet for you complete fucking nutcases.
As long as you refer to those
As long as you refer to those names he keeps mentioning, it feeds him and he'll just try and get you to feed him some more, which in turn takes the thread off-topic. All he wants is a response, and when he gets it, that satisfies him and encourages him to just come scavenging for more.
Resist the urge to feed him and you starve him, and eventually he'll go away to find his food elsewhere. Simple as that.
Whacko Posting to Himself
Most of the posts are in fact WHACKO posting to himself, about himself, or about how to ignore those, who he is pissing off, who feel compelled to tell him to shut it. He did not get the name "WHACKO MACKO" for nothing. He is a thread spoiling specialist, from way back. Complete moron, and nutcase.
Simple as that, you say? That's a bit rich, coming from you, Whacko Macko.
Anyway, cutting to the chase again, the question was "what have GEOS senior management done about their computer security breeches? Have they advised US/Can authorities yet?"
GEOS NA has done nothing
GEOS NA has done nothing about their releasing of private and confidential documents, including passport scans, contact information, banking details, credit card numbers, etc. They have told staff to "shut up" about it and I think they are lying low until a potential sale goes through to Open Hearts to let them deal with the the mess. Jenny Nieveen, be careful because you will be legally liable for the mess under Canadian law if you buy GEOS before it is remedied.
Rita is confirmed as in Korea and working extra hard with large wads of cash to sell GEOS NA courses. I heard they are battling it out in Canada with ILSC, the big gun in the language school industry. All large language schools in Canada are desperate right now (none more than GEOS though), so they are handing Korean agents 35% and up. Some Korean agencies do not care what it does to the long term in the industry.
Uri Carnat is trying to work "his magic" on Jenny in a desperate attempt to get the sale through...I have a feeling he is a little bit worried about the sale if she looks any longer at the manipulated financials, leaked student data, or general, negative cash flow numbers at most schools, or the low moral of the GEOS employee, he might not be able to sell it. He is trying to ram it down her throat and that might explain the delay. If she does buy it, she needs to a) change the GEOS name to OH immediately, b) pay less than asking, c) maintain full control of the operation so Uri doesn't sneak into the position as planned, and d) brace for a flood of legal requests coming from the Canadian government and others.
And there goes Captain
And there goes Captain Crackpot another bizarre, long-winded rant.
Nice formula you've got there.
Take 4 names:
Uri Carnat, Rita Chen, Matthew Chisholm, Jenny Nieveen
Then write several fictional paragraphs about how the above people think such-and-such a thing but how the opposite is actually true, or how the above people are doing such-and-such a thing but should actually be doing the opposite. With absolutely no proof and zero references. Oh... and don't forget to bold several words for effect.
Do it again and again while accusing anyone who points out your idiocy of being a "stooge", all the while forgetting that this is LET'S JAPAN and not Let's North America.
Someone at GEOS NA is really
Someone at GEOS NA is really pissed that more is being leaked out about there, Always good to see the SELL-ta posts and "crackpot" posts coming during GEOS, usually at the end of the work day. You might want to
I think someone is just a tad cranky they are being held accountable for their actions by seeing their name, and their actions, posted online. Nothing you can do about it, chump. This is how the circle of life works.
Maybe it is time to release some of those saved/ leaked financial documents I and others have that came from GEOS Ottawa. Highlighting a few key figures that are way off base might draw Jenny Nieveen's attention to some serious sale issues. Right, Uri? Or maybe I should ask Matthew Chisholm? :-D
Sorry, posting seems to be
Sorry, posting seems to be screwy on here sometimes...The first sentence above should read as follows...
Someone at GEOS NA is really pissed that more is being leaked out about there shenanigans, Always good to see the SELL-ta posts and "crackpot" posts coming during GEOS NA work time, usually at the end of the work day. You might want to be less obvioius where you are coming from...
Some Korean agencies do not care what it does to the long term in the industry.
Too true and some agents could not care if the name is GEOS so long as they get their 35-40% commission. They will send students where they get the best deal!
brace for a flood of legal requests coming from the Canadian government and others.
Too true and don't forget that I am sure Jenny N would be well aware of the debts NA still owes to Oceania. These debts would surely be in the books or has the insolvency of GEOS and the sale to G.Com somehow wiped out these amounts?????
So GEOS NA senior management understand or don't understand the ramifications of their information leaks? So GEOS senior management understand or don't understand their responsibilities and their obligations under Canadian and US legislation? Where is this issue going to go next? There is so much window and static on LJ on this thread at the moment that it would be reasonable to suggest that someone has the wind up.
Two attempts and you still can't spell "their" correctly? Keep fighting the good fight Mr. 'English teacher', GEOS management must be terrified.
This is Yuji Yamamoto. We were to sending our daughter to Canada for studying English in GEOS open hearts. We will not sending our daughter to Canada for studying English in GEOS open hearts now. Our thinking is too much chance of bankruptcy. Thank you.
Cool. Go on, then. Do it.
17:29
Hahaha, yeah riiiiiight.
BTW... this is Spiderman. I was going to spend the evening fighting crime and bustin' up some villains. But instead I think I'll stay in and read one man's bizarre rants against 4 names, what they're currently doing/thinking, and how they should actually be doing/thinking the opposite. I really like it when he posts something, then posts again 2 minutes later under a different username, quoting himself and saying something to the effect of "that's right!". And when he accuses anyone who points out his idiocy of being some kind of stooge, it gets my spider senses tingling. Thank you.
Maybe it is time to release
He doesn't have any. Read the thread. 95% of it is one guy just trying to post the names "Uri Carnat", "Rita Chen", "Jenny Nieveen", and "Matthew Chisholm" as much as possible. The whole thing is just bizarre and totally sad.
17:39 Wakarimasen :-D
17:39
Wakarimasen :-D LOL
23:22
How do you know it is "a guy"? From what I have read, coupled with my own inside experience, I think it might be a woman who is outing everyone. Actually it is more than one for sure, but the posts you mentioned...well...
Frustrating you can't stop the leak of information from GEOS, ehm little guy? Too bad. No matter how many times you try to deflect the conversation with "SELL-ta Mack" and some very basic reverse psychology, it fails....over and over. Sorry, but when you anger a lot of people through your shady and corrupt tactics deal witht he consequences.
I could not give a rats ass about Rita Chen....She is long gone and has only very basic marketing duties. Smile, b.s. some students, spy on competitors...That is pretty much her duties. Oh, and tell Uri how perfect he is...The usual.
The ones who really matter, and who have been called out on here by many to much chigrin by them, are Uri Carnat and Mathew Chisholm. Some of the rudest, most arrogant and incompetent morons we have ever had to work under. The little guy just can't stand it that his "big title" (that he gave himself) doesn't hold water on this board. Sorry, lil' pup, but you are just have to deal with answering to your unethical and illegal behaviour. Grow up (if you can) and be a man. I might have some spare time here and there to teach you abou it....Unless I am a woman? ;-)
Of course, they do not like being called out on here for their dirty tricks, so
17:39 and 22:33 Just did!
17:39 and 22:33
Just did! They are posted on another board on the Internet. Time to go fishing! Actually, I saw them already shared on a few sites when I was looking to share them. Nothing illegal though; they are PUBLIC documents... :-) Deal with it.
Don't have them??? You seem to know more than I....Really? MMR? GEOS Ottawa Profit & Loss??
Here is just a slice (obtained on a PUBLIC network):
1-Sep Abdullah Soliman Alnamlah Middle East CEP 31 4.0 7-Sep 100 1,180 140 1,420 295
1-Sep Yousef Ozuni Middle East CEP 24 12.0 12-Oct 100 2,940 295 3,335 0
1-Sep Hosam Jaber Alijahi Middle East CEP 31 8.0 12-Oct 100 2,360 140 2,600 0
3-Sep Cansu Ayse Bekiroglu Europe CEP 31 12.0 12-Oct 100 3,480 140 3,720 870
8-Sep Taha Mourad Other CEP 24 16.0 8-Nov 100 3,840 95 4,035 0
9-Sep Patrick Ehouzou North America CEP 24 12.0 13-Sep 50 2,646 95 2,791 0
10-Sep Hyemin Lee Korea TOEFL 4.0 13-Sep 100 1,000 80 1,180 250
10-Sep Mohamed Ali Other IELTS 4.0 13-Sep 100 400 45 545 0
10-Sep Darie Balumuera Other CEP AM 4.0 13-Sep 100 620 50 770 0
15-Sep Elena Gondar Europe CEP 31 4.0 20-Sep 100 1,180 140 1,420 295
15-Sep Elena Gondar Europe Cep 24 9.0 18-Oct 0 2,250 0 2,250 562
17-Sep Rabab Al Surmi Middle East CEP 12 4.0 4-Oct 50 620 35 705 155
17-Sep Arwa Al Surmi Middle East Cep 12 4.0 4-Oct 50 620 35 705 155
Yup, saved ALLLLLLLL of them for a perfect moment like this. You called my bluf and lost. :-) Might want to keep the ship from leaking instead of posting on here. It is amazing what you can learn.
P.S. Have Saudi passport scans, too! Might have to send those off to the Saudi embassy and Canadian governent. Gievn the current security climate and relations with the Saudi government, can't believe that would be looked at kindly. Migght derail that little Saudi program ass-kissing, eh? No more full-year, pre-paid tuition. :-D
B-slapped!
Wow, looks like this person just bitch slapped all the naysayers and GEOS-ites! He/ She REALY DOES have the info!!!
damn, shouldn't have called his/ her bluff is right...........you are just digging a deeper hole for yourselves. Hate to be a GEOS manager-type now. Must be bitching pretty loud their world is crumbling around them.
10-Sep Mohamed Ali IELTS 4.0 13-Sep
So sorry. Excuse me.
I thought Mohamed Ali is already native English speaker. No lesson necessary.
Why student?
Please clarify once more authentic information posted or not.
A woman? That explains a lot,
A woman? That explains a lot, since women are addicted to this kind of emotional drama nonsense. Not that there is anything to see here. In fact, this is all rather sad and pathetic. You seem to think that anyone who is bored with your antics and rambling on about Uri Carnat & co in every long-winded nonsensical post is some kind of Geos NA insider.
No, really, we're just guys in Japan who are tired of this NA bullshit.
So please, just go ahead and "leak" whatever you like. Really. No one cares. Then post again under a different username congratulating yourself.
You're boring.
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